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Topic: Editing for Trusted Members

How do we edit old posts?  I thought we'd be able to edit them forever, but the edit feature disappears after a while still.

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Wondering the same thing....or is it only moderators that can do that as I see that “boardwide editing of your posts”was one of the perks of being a moderator.

Real character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching.;)
Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents :)
Immortality is achieved by living a life worth remembering.

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We are having some difficulties with that...

Seems like the board software does not differentiate between edit and delete and the problem is with the first post. If that gets deleted then so does the topic and that could be problematic because we don't want whole topics deleted.

So my iT guy locked edit at 30 minutes until he figures out how to solve this issue.
The board software is written to be very easy to use so it does not have a lot of customizations unless you code them in and I am currently discussing that options with iT.

I have been thinking about maybe switching to ZenForo but it's not cheap at $160 +$55 yearly + possibly copyright removal around $300. Then a proper skin and mods all of which are paid.

There are advantages to our current software because there are so few scripts available. Our PM system for instance is so basic that no spy script is available. Our forum software cannot spy on members private messages where boards like ZenForo, MyBB and most other top software easily can.

We do not store IP's, and private information. In fact we stripped out almost everything that compromises privacy. As soon as we switch software these privacy invading features come as part of the software package.

On our boards even mods get no IP info or anything more than each member sees. Even the admin only has very basic information like the last used iP address which is hidden from everyone including mods.

So right now I'm trying to balance privacy with features and we have to decide what we want. I can adjust the edit time to anything but the worry is always the first post which if deleted causes us some big issues.

Everything is in Beta right now and before January 1st so we can openly discuss what we want ands we can easily switch software. That comes at a risk in the privacy department because my iT guy assured me this software is the most privacy oriented software there is. So we have to decide features vs privacy.

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PS. Initially we decided we did not want a private message system but since ours does not spy I figured it might be nice to have for quick messages. I did have them put the email link into every post so members can pick email over PM if a sensitive topic comes up.

Our email form also does not log anything, there is no script available for this with the current software.

So again for privacy this is the best software.

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Thanks.... I know this is basically a “soft opening” to get things sorted.


MapleDots wrote:

Everything is in Beta right now and before January 1st so we can openly discuss what we want ands we can easily switch software. That comes at a risk in the privacy department because my iT guy assured me this software is the most privacy oriented software there is. So we have to decide features vs privacy.

Real character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching.;)
Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents :)
Immortality is achieved by living a life worth remembering.

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Just got off the phone with iT
Apparently we can work on the edit features by adding some code.

I was thinking maybe something like this...


https://i.postimg.cc/9XGrf9gx/Picture0009.png


When a member reaches trusted status they can edit their posts unlimited and before then they are limited to 30 minutes.


New Member - Basic rights

DN Member - Mid level rights

Trusted Member - Full rights (unlimited edit and other perks

Super Member - Don't know yet, maybe super powers of some sort :lol:

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We would also be able to add members we already trust to the trusted group at any time.

Discuss, what do you think?

Remember I am paying these guys to do pretty much what we need so now is the time to speak up and ask for what we want in the board.

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Ok....working on 1000 posts....what are super power options? :cool:

Real character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching.;)
Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents :)
Immortality is achieved by living a life worth remembering.

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I like trusted member for edit rights

Real character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching.;)
Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents :)
Immortality is achieved by living a life worth remembering.

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jaydub wrote:

Thanks.... I know this is basically a “soft opening” to get things sorted.

Exactly, just let me know, I will work with iT to get what we need.

I tossed a few ideas above, some feedback would be appreciated.

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OK,

I added the following members to the trusted user group because I already know them.

@rlm
@jaydub
@Nafti

So basically you should have permanent edit abilities. I need to test all this as far as titles edit etc so please work with me.

Trusted members also get

green user names (as in trusted)
no flood controls, can post consecutively
no pm flood controls

Again, a work in progress, let me know what works.

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Sounds good.  I was just going to obfuscate the domain name on that "experiment" post I made, now that the negotiations have completed.  I just didn't want a permanent record of the domain name in there.

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Should work now

So the way my iT guy set it up is that members have no edit rights until they have trusted member status at 100 posts.

At 100 posts you have unlimited edit rights including the title.

As stated above a few members have been added to the trusted member group.

Sorry, to new members, I will try to give 30 minute edit time but it's more code I have to get them to write so to give trusted members unlimited edit we had to turn off edit board wide and then grant privileges to trusted members.

rlm please confirm it works for you

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MapleDots wrote:

rlm please confirm it works for you

It works!
Thanks.

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You know what would be cool?  If you could type a domain name in a post using a magic format that could be programmatically located, like [=mydomain.ca=][1w] or some other unique pattern.  Then the domain name automatically gets obfuscated after the specified period (i.e. the [1w] part).  So in my example, [=mydomain.ca=][1w] would automatically get redacted 1 week later and would then look like this:  [domain redacted]

So its kinda like snapchat or a MissionImpossible self-destruct instruction on the domain name.

It would be easy to do, run a script run via cron to locate messages in the db with the magic format, test to see if the period has passed, then auto-redact it.  Anyone _not_ wanting that feature would just type their domain some other way.

Not sure if anyone else likes that idea or not, but I guess I'm more the discreet type, I don't mind sharing stuff briefly but also don't necessarily want it permanently out there either...

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rlm wrote:

So its kinda like snapchat or a MissionImpossible self-destruct instruction on the domain name.

I can give that to iT to work on but we have to finish up the basics first, tweak things that assure everything is functioning according to plan.

PS. Are you going to change your avatar?
Sometimes I don't realize it's you responding until I look twice.

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MapleDots wrote:

Just got off the phone with iT
Apparently we can work on the edit features by adding some code.

I was thinking maybe something like this...



When a member reaches trusted status they can edit their posts unlimited and before then they are limited to 30 minutes.


New Member - Basic rights

DN Member - Mid level rights

Trusted Member - Full rights (unlimited edit and other perks

Super Member - Don't know yet, maybe super powers of some sort :lol:

I think this is a great idea. I will also take the super powers with a blue cape! :lol:

Thanks for the add to trustee member as well.

The Fab 5:


Do.ca, Of.ca, No.ca, He.ca, Be.ca

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Nafti wrote:

Thanks for the add to trustee member as well.

No problems

So you can edit the title as well

Just remember to leave the topic intact, remove just as much as is necessary so the topic does not become useless.

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https://i.postimg.cc/SsgPd7Wf/Picture0010.png



I just reached 10 posts, so I'm 1 tenth home :)

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MapleDots wrote:

I can give that to iT to work on but we have to finish up the basics first, tweak things that assure everything is functioning according to plan.

Not a big deal, that idea just popped into my head for some reason.  It might not get used enough anyways.

MapleDots wrote:

PS. Are you going to change your avatar?
Sometimes I don't realize it's you responding until I look twice.

Well I was just waiting to see of this forum is going to make it first, haha.  I'm trying to do my part and help you out though, I'm no longer posting elsewhere and purposely posting more than usual here...

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rlm wrote:

Well I was just waiting to see of this forum is going to make it first, haha.  I'm trying to do my part and help you out though, I'm no longer posting elsewhere and purposely posting more than usual here...


Yeah, I'm basically doing the same

We have to spread the word, I do not want another dnf.ca happening here.
I think that forum died because it was over moderated, the investor closed so many topics to some sort of rule that members got annoyed.

I prefer to not do that here and give a lot of the moderating to members.

Two things for you...

Anybody have the contact for AndrewSchnarr and some of the .ca forum members from the other site?

You would be ideal to moderate one of the sections, maybe the "Sell Domain" section?


As far as making it, that is a non issue I signed agreements for hosting, iT, support etc for 3 years so we are not going anywhere.
Now if we are dead after three years then I think it might be time to pack it in but that's highly unlikely if we all do our part and invite people in.

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Personally I think you should have at least 6 member levels, it gives participants something to strive for.

What about badges?

*KISSED*

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MapleDots wrote:

I think that forum died because it was over moderated, the investor closed so many topics to some sort of rule that members got annoyed.

I'd say it was due to lack of unique content more than anything.  It can't be just a duplicate of the same content at another forum. Getting key contributors to forego posting elsewhere is the deal breaker.

MapleDots wrote:

Anybody have the contact for AndrewSchnarr and some of the .ca forum members from the other site?

I'll post a similar good-bye message at the other place.  I'll leave a few breadcrumbs on my way out the door.

MapleDots wrote:

You would be ideal to moderate one of the sections, maybe the "Sell Domain" section?

While I appreciate that offer, I prefer to not moderate.  For one, I'd have to moderate myself.  I just got spanked at namepros for berating a really stupid .CA post.  Sometimes a post is so egregious I can't help myself and it was well worth the spanking I knew I'd get from a moderator.  Plus, I don't like committing to anything.  If I want to go dark for 3 months, I don't want to feel guilty about it.  And as a moderator I'd feel less inclined to add content.  Content is king, not moderation.

MapleDots wrote:

As far as making it, that is a non issue I signed agreements for hosting, iT, support etc for 3 years so we are not going anywhere.
Now if we are dead after three years then I think it might be time to pack it in but that's highly unlikely if we all do our part and invite people in.

Haha, yes, I was just joking about waiting to see if you make it, clearly I'm trying to support this.

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Feedback:

The one thing I did like at the other place is the "Like Dislike Thank Agree Disagree" options. There are times when each of those are appropriate, it gives feedback to the poster and as well as the public, and I like the idea that it can be used to create a credibility score of the poster.  Not that i've seen it be necessary very often, but occasionally some troll will pop up and flood the place with stupidity, and if a poster gets beat down enough with a bad like/dislike agree/disagree ratio, you can rate limit posts based on their negative scores.  Its essentially a way to allow the public to moderate.

However, I think you'd have to have a very busy forum to make a public-moderation scheme like that useful.  Primarily I just like those "Like Dislike Thank Agree Disagree" options as a low resistance way to give feedback without having to make such a trivial post like "i agree".  And I like that people can disagree/dislike too without actually making a more in-your-face post saying that.

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rlm wrote:

Feedback:

The one thing I did like at the other place is the "Like Dislike Thank Agree Disagree" options. There are times when each of those are appropriate, it gives feedback to the poster and as well as the public, and I like the idea that it can be used to create a credibility score of the poster.  Not that i've seen it be necessary very often, but occasionally some troll will pop up and flood the place with stupidity, and if a poster gets beat down enough with a bad like/dislike agree/disagree ratio, you can rate limit posts based on their negative scores.  Its essentially a way to allow the public to moderate.

However, I think you'd have to have a very busy forum to make a public-moderation scheme like that useful.  Primarily I just like those "Like Dislike Thank Agree Disagree" options as a low resistance way to give feedback without having to make such a trivial post like "i agree".  And I like that people can disagree/dislike too without actually making a more in-your-face post saying that.

I am looking at that and will probably have it implemented, the iT guy has a whole list so I will add that.