Esdiel
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@HelloCanada
While there's a lot you said I don't agree with or even bothered debating, there's also a lot that you said today that I completely or at least partly agree with... but you appear so hell-bent on defending every aspect of the liberals without acknowledging any of their... "faults" let's say...that it makes you look incredibly biased (a heck of a lot more than CBC)... or that you're even somehow related to the party or have campaigned for them.
Being open-minded and willing/able to change your mind is key to being objective, but party politics often leads people to vehemently defend their position/political stance no matter what… which is anything but objective and probably the main problem with politics. It's hard to let someone else win an argument when you're fighting to form government and cabinet positions.
It would also be a lot easier to find some middle ground if people didn’t try to demean or insult those who don’t agree with them. Which we’ve seen here today… but it’s also something Trudeau did as well with the truckers, those who refused to get vaccinated or just people who disagree with him. Including those who called him out on Chinese interference, by first saying it was racist to think that.
I've voted for 3 different parties the last 3 federal elections, and they didn’t include NPD or PPC. I did vote for the Liberals twice since Justin first ran but I'm done with him/that. That doesn't mean I won't ever vote liberal again because I don't pigeonhole myself to a specific party.
I’m a realist and I almost never believe anything with complete certainty anymore (unfortunately), even if I want to agree, because it’s true we’re living in the disinformation age and you need to at least have a bit of healthy skepticism of everything you see or read today. And yes, we’re all being manipulated by all types of media more than ever before but it’s not exclusive to the right-wingers.
I would also agree the far-right is a bit too “crazy” to put it lightly and i rather identify as far-left if i was forced to choose, but I'm still rightward leaning and even more so now thanks to being fed up with Trudeau after giving him a chance. I also voted for Harper a few times but got sick of him too by the end of it. I also don’t want any religious leader who opposes gay marriage or abortions, or wouldn’t mind everyone to walk in the streets with guns. And people like Trump have contributed to some of the crap I hate about the cons, while also tarnishing what it means to be conservative.
I watch CBC, especially The National, every day because they are often the first to cover stories and it's often quality coverage where not everything is political, but when it comes to politics they've been helping JT since day 1… treating him like a political superstar/celebrity (which many others did too) and likely giving him more positive coverage than any politician in history.
The liberals are also nicknamed the “natural governing party of Canada” because they’ve been in power for the last ~70 of 100 years, which gives CBC even more incentive to think/report of them more favourably.
While there's a lot you said I don't agree with or even bothered debating, there's also a lot that you said today that I completely or at least partly agree with... but you appear so hell-bent on defending every aspect of the liberals without acknowledging any of their... "faults" let's say...that it makes you look incredibly biased (a heck of a lot more than CBC)... or that you're even somehow related to the party or have campaigned for them.
Being open-minded and willing/able to change your mind is key to being objective, but party politics often leads people to vehemently defend their position/political stance no matter what… which is anything but objective and probably the main problem with politics. It's hard to let someone else win an argument when you're fighting to form government and cabinet positions.
It would also be a lot easier to find some middle ground if people didn’t try to demean or insult those who don’t agree with them. Which we’ve seen here today… but it’s also something Trudeau did as well with the truckers, those who refused to get vaccinated or just people who disagree with him. Including those who called him out on Chinese interference, by first saying it was racist to think that.
I've voted for 3 different parties the last 3 federal elections, and they didn’t include NPD or PPC. I did vote for the Liberals twice since Justin first ran but I'm done with him/that. That doesn't mean I won't ever vote liberal again because I don't pigeonhole myself to a specific party.
I’m a realist and I almost never believe anything with complete certainty anymore (unfortunately), even if I want to agree, because it’s true we’re living in the disinformation age and you need to at least have a bit of healthy skepticism of everything you see or read today. And yes, we’re all being manipulated by all types of media more than ever before but it’s not exclusive to the right-wingers.
I would also agree the far-right is a bit too “crazy” to put it lightly and i rather identify as far-left if i was forced to choose, but I'm still rightward leaning and even more so now thanks to being fed up with Trudeau after giving him a chance. I also voted for Harper a few times but got sick of him too by the end of it. I also don’t want any religious leader who opposes gay marriage or abortions, or wouldn’t mind everyone to walk in the streets with guns. And people like Trump have contributed to some of the crap I hate about the cons, while also tarnishing what it means to be conservative.
I watch CBC, especially The National, every day because they are often the first to cover stories and it's often quality coverage where not everything is political, but when it comes to politics they've been helping JT since day 1… treating him like a political superstar/celebrity (which many others did too) and likely giving him more positive coverage than any politician in history.
The liberals are also nicknamed the “natural governing party of Canada” because they’ve been in power for the last ~70 of 100 years, which gives CBC even more incentive to think/report of them more favourably.
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