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MapleDots

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Another one is joy.ca which was briefly owned by yours truly until CIRA took it away.

I still have joyy.ca but there is a world of difference between those two domains.

Some of the restricted domains just don't make sense.
 

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*THUMBSUP*
I have a .on.ca that I bought on tbr a few years ago that allowed me to reg the .ca
rlm said:
yes, because ideal.qc.ca exists.
 

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Exactly, it's not restricted like some Geo domains are, the domain just exists in an alternate form. Thought it is weird as ideal.qc.ca seems to be the only one, which would allow the company to register the .CA - or maybe they like the .qc.ca.

You also need to keep an eye on these, as the CIRA doesn't automatically put them back in the pot if the last one expires. That happened to me with Tanda, and I needed to contact the CIRA to get them to release it to TBR.
 

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jaydub said:
I have a .on.ca that I bought on tbr a few years ago that allowed me to reg the .ca

I think they stopped doing that around 2010, so you're losing track of time. :D
 

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By far the majority of restricted domains are due to one or more provincial extensions still existing.

Some are due to reserved words, CIRA has a bunch of them they hold back for a variety of reasons. Everything from cuss words like F*CK and C*NT to domains like COM, INTERNET, etc, and some LL's that were country codes like MX that CIRA reserved to try and prevent confusion. There are also some obscure 4th level domains like county.brant.on.ca causing conflicts, preventing registration of county.ca as well.
 

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DomainRecap said:
Exactly, it's not restricted like some Geo domains are, the domain just exists in an alternate form. Thought it is weird as ideal.qc.ca seems to be the only one, which would allow the company to register the .CA - or maybe they like the .qc.ca.

You also need to keep an eye on these, as the CIRA doesn't automatically put them back in the pot if the last one expires. That happened to me with Tanda, and I needed to contact the CIRA to get them to release it to TBR.

There's a store in Ottawa that still operates on the third level... https://audioshop.on.ca/

Weird seeing that url on the TV commercials, it's like a direct link to prehistoric times :)
 

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Was 2009 I got it I think...still have them

DomainRecap said:
I think they stopped doing that around 2010, so you're losing track of time. :D
 

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I actually did some research on this in early 2019 and saved some of what I discovered.

All of the LLL domains below are restricted. The only one that is no longer restricted (or at least now resolves) is the very last one on the list (iti.ca), but that's the result of iti.qc.ca deciding to switch over to iti.ca... which they just registered in July 2020 (as per whois). Must be nice to be able to wait 20+ years before deciding to register a domain like iti.ca at regular cost:

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ABC.ca and THC.ca are also restricted, due to ABC.nb.ca and THC.on.ca.

Another interesting thing I noticed is that if you whois search any <name>.gc.ca, whether it's tomcruise.gc.ca, porno.gc.ca, z6zx1rz.gc.ca, the whois result will always be the same:


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ABC.ca use to be registered but I have no idea what happened to it. I don’t recall it ever being in a TBR. I have an email from 2016 where I inquired about it but I didn’t hear back from them.
 

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Nafti said:
ABC.ca use to be registered but I have no idea what happened to it. I don’t recall it ever being in a TBR. I have an email from 2016 where I inquired about it but I didn’t hear back from them.

They probably let it expire by mistake, or because they decided not to use it. There’s really no point in paying for renewal fees when you’re the only person/entity allowed to register/own it (i.e. it’s restricted).
 

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theinvestor said:
When did you own it?

I got it during that boondoggle where they allowed registrations to go through, I got a bunch of others like county etc and I understood why they took them back I just could not figure out why joy.ca.

I guess the joy.on.ca explains it
 

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Esdiel said:
They probably let it expire by mistake, or because they decided not to use it.
Yes, that could be the case but if it is the case, why wasn’t it in the TBR? Or is it because there is already a provincial ABC so CIRA just grabs it?
 

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Nafti said:
ABC.ca use to be registered but I have no idea what happened to it. I don’t recall it ever being in a TBR. I have an email from 2016 where I inquired about it but I didn’t hear back from them.

If abc was registered and then expired, it wouldn't go to TBR because any existing provincial extension would be a conflicting domain. First rights pass on to the conflicting domain owners rather than it going to TBR. And if multiple conflicts exist, it can only be registered if all parties agree to allow it.
 

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MapleDots said:
I got it during that boondoggle where they allowed registrations to go through, I got a bunch of others like county etc and I understood why they took them back I just could not figure out why joy.ca.

I guess the joy.on.ca explains it

I remember when that boondoggle happened lol. I just happened to notice by chance and "bought" the LL domains below... until CIRA clawed them back... lol. And honestly i don't think they were ever in my GD account, as per the second screenshot below, but I did pay for them and had to be refunded:

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I guess we can add the above LLs to our list of restricted domains. I haven't dug into why they're restricted, but it's obvious for some of them:

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I saw Badger.com sold 300K USD the other day, so I decided to check the whois info for Badger.ca and saw it was a restricted domain:

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I'm trying to figure out why, since "Badger" doesn't seem be registered on any third level (provincial) domain, and there seems to be 0 history of this domain ever being used before.

I did see that Badgers.bc.ca was in use, but that's the plural version and I can't find any policy or regulations that says a plural restricts the singular.

My best guess at this point is that it's reserved for the town/municipality of Badger in Newfoundland, but they are currently using TownOfBadger.ca, which they registered in 2010.

Is it possible that Badger in Newfoundland is entitled to Badger.ca and they don't even know it?

The rules pertaining to admissible/restricted domains fall under section 3 of CIRA's "General Registration Rules", for those who are interested: https://www.cira.ca/policy/rules-and-procedures/general-registration-rules
 

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Esdiel said:
Is it possible that Badger in Newfoundland is entitled to Badger.ca and they don't even know it?

Yes, that is most definitely the reason. Many good names locked up due to the fact that some small municipality has it reserved for them but they aren't using it.

A very interesting one is Cadillac.ca. For many years it was unreg'd due to being reserved. Apparently someone at Cadillac eventually figured out why it was reserved, then contacted that town, convinced them to register it, and is probably leasing it from them.

Cadillac, Sask. population 92.
Official website: https://www.saskatchewan-businessdirectory.com/c-village-of-cadillac_47362

LOL

Hopefully they negotiated a good deal for themselves! You figure the mayor drives around a Caddy??