Discuss CIRA Restricted Domains (2.Viewing)

Esdiel · Oct 25, 2021

silentg said:
Meta.ca is restricted.

This is why I made the comment here under this topic, in case some people are still scratching their head. It's restricted because of meta.bc.ca, and it's theirs to claim if they want it.

silentg · Oct 28, 2021

Facebook is now officially known as Meta.

Esdiel · Oct 28, 2021

silentg said:
Facebook is now officially known as Meta.

Haven't watched the whole thing... but Zuckerburg published this an hour ago on FB.

It's an hour and 20 mins long:

[https://www.facebook.com/zuck/video...1635440482473029&notif_t=live_video&ref=notif]

silentg · Oct 28, 2021

He touched on Virtual Work rooms, class rooms, parties, meetings....

Esdiel · Nov 5, 2021

I figured it was restricted because it was already registered at a second level, but turns out it's because of the municipality of Alliance in Alberta. They had a population of 154 people in 2016, and are using VillageOfAlliance.ca.

Although they call themselves a "village" they actually have municipal status too (in case you're wondering). I found this list of municipalities in Alberta to confirm it was indeed a municipality: Population and Dwelling Count Highlight Tables, 2016 Census – Census subdivisions

This is most certainly another example of a municipality having the exclusive right to a great domain and they don't even know it, and if you were to check the other municipalities in that link above you'll find more (although some are top on it).

Alix.ca would another example I came across right away. Restricted because of the municipality of Alix in Alberta, and they are using VillageOfAlix.ca:

Esdiel · Nov 5, 2021

There are too many to go through, but this one also caught my eye. They are using AndrewAB.com ...

Nafti · Nov 5, 2021

I always find some of these city name restrictions very odd. In one instance you have a town of 154 being restricted but then you have Bolton (Ontario) which was in a TBR and Chatham (Ontario) which was sold here on DN last month.

What could be the reasoning as to why some are restricted and some are not? Is buying a city .ca name risky?

Develop · Nov 5, 2021

Nafti said:
I always find some of these city name restrictions very odd. In one instance you have a town of 154 being restricted but then you have Bolton (Ontario) which was in a TBR and Chatham (Ontario) which was sold here on DN last month.

What could be the reasoning as to why some are restricted and some are not?

Amalgamation of municipalities is the primary reason most come available.

Chatham became a part of the municipality of Chatham-Kent.

Esdiel · Nov 5, 2021

Nafti said:
I always find some of these city name restrictions very odd. In one instance you have a town of 154 being restricted but then you have Bolton (Ontario) which was in a TBR and Chatham (Ontario) which was sold here on DN last month.

What could be the reasoning as to why some are restricted and some are not? Is buying a city .ca name risky?

In addition to what [notify]Develop[/notify] said, it all boils down to whether the name/domain in question is officially classified as a municipality or not (by our government).

A municipality covers a certain geographical area, which usually has a village/town/city with a matching name, but the municipality itself often (or always?) encompasses several villages/towns/cities. So a municipality includes many different places, but only the municipality's name is what get's restricted. That's how I look at it.

I looked up whether Bolton was a municipality and it’s not. Bolton is a part of the Municipality of Peel. So are Brampton and Mississauga.

See screenshot below. Oddly enough, neither peel.ca or peel.on.ca seem to resolve (and it looks like they dropped peel.on.ca, probably after switching to peel.ca):

Esdiel · Nov 5, 2021

3.4 Reserved/Restricted Names.
CIRA will maintain a list of reserved names and a list of restricted names that are not available for registration in the CIRA Registry. These lists will include, but not be limited to:

* the Canadian top level country code .ca and certain generic top level domain three letter names (including but not limited to .com.ca, .org.ca, .net.ca, .edu.ca, .gov.ca, .int.ca, and .mil.ca);

* the following names: village.ca, hamlet.ca, town.ca, city.ca and ville.ca;

* the names, and all abbreviations of names, of Canada and Canadian provinces and territories. CIRA will use the abbreviations officially adopted by the provinces and territories. Applicants for a fourth level domain name registration wishing to use the abbreviation for Newfoundland and Labrador as part of the domain name must use .nl instead of .nf;

* municipal names listed in the following classes in the applicable version of the Canadian Geographical Names Data Base (CGNDB): city, ville, town, village, hamlet, hameau, other municipal/district area – major agglomeration, autre zone municipale /de district – agglomerations majeure, other municipal/district area- miscellaneous and autre zone municipale/de district – divers. The Applicant for registration of a municipal name must be the corresponding government entity and the name in the registrant field for the registration of a municipal Domain Name must be the full legal name of the Applicant for registration. The Domain Name must comply with the other provisions of this Section 3, and municipal names consisting of more than one word may only be registered as one word. If there is more than one municipality eligible to apply for the registration of the same Domain Name, the Applicant must get the consent of all the other eligible municipalities. In cases where a municipal name is the same as the name of a Canadian province or territory, the Applicant may only register the municipal name as a fourth level Domain Name. Municipal Domain Names cannot be transferred to any other party without CIRA’s prior, written consent; and

*such other Domain Names as CIRA may determine in its sole discretion.

CIRA reserves the right to periodically review and amend these lists and to grant Registrations of any of the names on these lists as it deems appropriate. Geographical names may be made available to corresponding government entities under special conditions to be determined by CIRA in its discretion.

Esdiel · Nov 6, 2021

Esdiel said:
3.4 Reserved/Restricted Names.
CIRA will maintain a list of reserved names and a list of restricted names that are not available for registration in the CIRA Registry. These lists will include, but not be limited to:

* the Canadian top level country code .ca ...

Maybe I'm just immature but I find this one is kinda funny:

ps: Jokes aside, Cira should redirect ca.ca to cira.ca, considering ca.ca is restricted because of the .ca itself.

Esdiel · Mar 31, 2022

Levis.ca is restricted because of the Municipality of Levis in Quebec, and while the domain is reserved for them, they are using https://www.ville.levis.qc.ca.

For those that don't know, Levis is essentially the same place as Quebec city except that it's on the other side of the Saint Lawrence River:

I found this one interesting given the domain isn't in use and their name matches the name of Levi's Jeans.

Makes me wonder if the municipality could make a similar deal like the Municipality of Cadillac did with Cadillac.ca. However, that seems unlikely given that Levi's Jeans seems to only have 1 website worldwide, and they actually use Levi.com (singular) as their main domain. And any other domain they own, like Levis.com and Levi.ca, all redirect to their main site.

Below are other domains they have redirecting to levi.com:

levis.dk
levis501warehouse.com
levisoutlet.ca
levi.nl
levis.eu
levi.at
levi.co.uk
levis.no
levi-strauss.de
levis.fi
levi.se
levis.com
levis.fr
levis.nl
levi.com.ve
levis.pl
levi.ca
levi.fr
liveinlevis.com
levismadeandcrafted.com
liveinlevi.com
levisvintageclothing.com
levi.eu
levis.be
levi.es
levi.ie
levis.at
levis.ru
levisred.net
levis.ie
levi.gr
levis.ch
levi.be
levis.pt
levi.de
levi.dk
levismusic.com
tamponaf.com
levis501.com
levis.asia
tamponsaf.com
levis.it
501.com
levis.se
levis.co.uk
levi.it
levis.es

rlm · Mar 31, 2022

sadly, there are a _lot_ of good domains locked up by restrictions....

dancarls · Mar 31, 2022

I have been trying to get a name that is restricted for no real reason, I have contacted cira multiple times with little success, the last word I think i received was that the name will probably be available for registration when they get around to checking the list of restricted names again, and then put it back into circulation. They also say they do not have any idea of when they will review the names or when names will be available for registration.

There is no appeal process, no way to challenge the domain in question, just wait and hope it gets dropped on a date and time your checking.

Esdiel · Sep 8, 2022

Esdiel · Sep 8, 2022

theinvestor · Sep 8, 2022

So when all these domains make their way into TBR… Who has the bankroll to make the investments?

Esdiel · Sep 8, 2022

Esdiel · Sep 8, 2022

Esdiel · Sep 8, 2022

theinvestor said:
So when all these domains make their way into TBR… Who has the bankroll to make the investments?

Doesn't look like BTC.ca will make it's way to TBR. Not anytime soon anyway, and I doubt they'll ever let it go now.

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