Does CIRA Still Offer a "Free Service" to Complainants Listing All Your Domains? (2 Viewing)

I was doing some CDRP research and found the following quote on a law company site:

Recent .CA domain name decision illustrates useful tool for demonstrating bad faith​

"Notably, CIRA provides a service whereby complainants, on request and free of charge, can obtain a comprehensive list of all .CA domains which are owned by the registrant of a domain name that may become the subject of a CDRP proceeding. In the present case, the Complainant used this service to identify 4,664 .CA domain names owned by Nameshield Inc. or its sole director."


Needless to say I was taken aback that the CIRA would offer a "free service" that is so blatantly anti-customer and anti-privacy, and I am wondering if this dubious practice is still in operation?

@richard.schreier

There is a service...

https://viewdns.info/reversewhois/

I only have to punch in a domain you own and it will show me all the domains owned by the same email address registered to the owner of that domain.

Probably similar to how the cira service would work

I cannot see any .ca domains listed in the service above but do see other ccTLD's like .in

MapleDots said:

I only have to punch in a domain you own and it will show me all the domains owned by the same email address registered to the owner of that domain.

Probably similar to how the cira service would work

I cannot see any .ca domains listed in the service above but do see other ccTLD's like .in

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But I'm not talking about a service like that, as you could write one yourself with public WHOIS records. The legal firm article positioned it clearly as a "free service" specifically for UDRP complainants and not something you or I would ever have access to.

.CAs are also different and come with built-in root privacy for non-corporations and according to the article this "free service" would supersede that privacy.

I have had conflicting information... I'm pretty sure Richard said they don't, but I'm pretty sure I've seen something about CIRA doing that (or having done that in the past) right on their website. Lawyers will use other services like what @MapleDots says, but a lot of times those are wrong, out of date, etc...

Definitely a question for Richard.

The CIRA Policy for Disclosure is available here:

Registration Information Access Rules and Procedures – CIRA

richard.schreier said:

The CIRA Policy for Disclosure is available here:

Registration Information Access Rules and Procedures – CIRA

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So the answer is a resounding yes. And the worst part is that this service is made available to any company BEFORE they even initiate any type of complaint. Talk about potential fishing expeditions, and all for free.

And some people (like John Berryhill) say the CDRP is adversely slanted towards corporate complainants. Pah!

Systems like this can easily be circumvented

For instance.... I have 3 godaddy accounts, one is my own and 2 others were full catalog purchases.
I reregistered all the domains with a different email address because I was letting the remainder domains expire and did not want all the remider emails.

I have since found out there are benefits to using different email addresses for registrations because email is one of the things used to link accounts. As a domainer we have access the unlimited email addresses so picking a few is pretty easy.

So technically for CIRA you could register higher risk domains to a different email address and be completely safe.

So if the domain is company1.ca you could easily use me@company1.ca as the registrant email to make it virtually untraceable.

If you use WHC as your registrar you can set multiple email addresses for all your domains for free and just forward them to your main email address.

I'm not looking to hide anything, it's just that having such an open door policy on our privacy rights (especially when you don't even need to file a CDRP to access all this raw data) is pretty scary given the times we live in. This sounds like something a Canadian would create in 1959 when most people were trustworthy.

People are coming back from vacation to find their houses sold out from under them, all with the same lawyer's signature, who just happens to have taken off to the Caymans with a big bag of money.

I could think up dozens of domain scams I could run using a dodgy lawyer to sign off.

richard.schreier said:

The CIRA Policy for Disclosure is available here:

Registration Information Access Rules and Procedures – CIRA

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What is CIRA's thinking for creating this policy?

lotsofcoffee said:

What is CIRA's thinking for creating this policy?

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Gee, I wonder.

Same reason Claude Freeman is on every CDRP panel.