Mark.ca - Uh Oh Spaghettio - someone is going to be in trouble (2.Viewing)

domains said:

Has anyone here ever registered some or all the provincials for one or more .ca domains they have, and benefited from it? ie: sold some of them?

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Probably not. But I did buy a company about 15 years ago that included two keyword provincials. I've since acquired the .ca from someone else for one of them. I don't know the story about how that came to be though. Did the owner of the provincial register the .ca and sell it keeping the provincial? Or did the .ca get approached to reg & sell a provincial? Not sure.

rlm said:

I believe it wasn't until late 2010 when they stopped allowing you to reg new provincials, so you could reg them for 10 years.

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But you could you also own the .CA and still have multiple provincial domains running around owned by other people? I thought if there was already a provincial when CIRA took over, then the .CA was held until there were no more provincials out there.

I assumed the CIRA cleaned up some of the provincial overlap in 2000, but it looks they started in 2010 from what you're saying. It must have been the Wild West for 10 years, and it was probably a lot worse of a mess than I'd imagined.

DomainRecap said:

But you could you also own the .CA and still have multiple provincial domains running around owned by other people? I thought if there was already a provincial when CIRA took over, then the .CA was held until there were no more provincials out there.

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It was true that the .CA could only be available for public registration after there were no provincials remaining.

If there was one provincial, then that owner had exclusive right to register the .ca.

If there were more than one provincial registered, then the .CA would be unavailable unless all provincial owners agreed upon who was registering it. Therefore if I owned .BC.CA and you owned .ON.CA, I could say hey, I'll pay you $1K if you agree to let me reg the .CA, put it in writing and get CIRA to approve it. But that was in theory, I never actually tried it.

DomainRecap said:

I assumed the CIRA cleaned up some of the provincial overlap in 2000, but it looks they started in 2010 from what you're saying. It must have been the Wild West for 10 years, and it was probably a lot worse of a mess than I'd imagined.

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The rules did change in 2000, but they didn't stop provincials from being registered, they just added the extra rules to protect existing owners of provincials or the .CA. It wasn't until 2010 when they announced that they would discontinue all new provincial registrations, but that any existing provincials would continue to exist and be renewable. So it became a now-or-never situation for owners of the .CA to choose to reg provincials if they thought it might be beneficial.

Calling it the wild west is a bit of an exaggeration. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill here. They're just domain names.

rlm said:

Calling it the wild west is a bit of an exaggeration.

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You explanation follows pretty well what I thought given your previous comments, and it was really only the .CA owner who could get through that loophole.