Summer Doldrums & Winter Blues (8.Viewing)

DomainRecap said:

I literally thought "Who in the heck would sell CityRealtor.com for $1900 and what company is stupid enough to not buy it for $1900?"

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CityRealty

If I don't have anything positive to say I try not to harp but yeah I was thinking I would not sell that domain for under 25k in the .com and quite honestly probably the same for the .ca

That said (city)realty.com for 1.5 - 1.9k would depend on the city, is there double exposure with the city Canada/US ?

That would influence the price greatly

MapleDots said:

CityRealty

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Same difference as I wouldn't sell either for $1900.

DomainRecap said:

Then put the Variable word in brackets or quotes (like you just did above) or something like City+Realty.com because the way you did it, there was only one way to read it.

I literally thought "Who in the heck would sell CityRealtor.com for $1900 and what company is stupid enough to not buy it for $1900?"

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I must be getting lazy in my posting

domains said:

I must be getting lazy in my posting

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Well I understood what you mean - you put quotes around the cityrealty and in my mind I read that like air-quotes. If it was the exact domain, you would have just typed it, not used quotes. So I think some people are being too anal here, lol.

But yes, using brackets like {city}realty.ca would make more sense.

rlm said:

Well I understood what you mean - you put quotes around the cityrealty and in my mind I read that like air-quotes. If it was the exact domain, you would have just typed it, not used quotes. So I think some people are being too anal here, lol.

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Nope, it's called the English Language and if someone types in that they "got an offer on CityPlumbing.ca" why would you automatically think that City is a variable? Who are you, Kreskin?

DomainRecap said:

Nope, it's called the English Language and if someone types in that they "got an offer on CityPlumbing.ca" why would you automatically think that City is a variable? Who are you, Kreskin?

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Whois running to see if CityPlumbing.ca is registered

MapleDots said:

Whois running to see if CityPlumbing.ca is registered

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Those are bad examples

Take CityWideRoofing.ca = bad

CityRoofing.ca = good and in use

Even if CityRoofing.ca was available (and it wasn't already a successful company already) I wouldn't look twice at it. What do you think of CityProperty.ca?

CanuckDomains said:

Even if CityRoofing.ca was available (and it wasn't already a successful company already) I wouldn't look twice at it. What do you think of CityProperty.ca?

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I sold 3 domains to roofing companies to date, I would register it in a heartbeat.

CityProperty.ca is not for me

The largest cab company in my region is called CityCabs

I would register a City{Service}.ca domain if I found one, something like CityRentals.ca

lol just look what I started.

if I'd used the proper quotes just think of all this extra discussion we'd be missing out on.

It's been about a week and haven't heard anything back on the {city}realty.com, if I do will post about it. would be kind of surprised if they walk on $1900 from their offer of $1500, but hey this is domaining and anything can happen.

MapleDots said:

I sold 3 domains to roofing companies to date, I would register it in a heartbeat.

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Which is why I also registered Moonroof.ca

The new solar shingles that are coming are so sensitive they can charge via moonlight

DomainRecap said:

Nope, it's called the English Language and if someone types in that they "got an offer on CityPlumbing.ca" why would you automatically think that City is a variable? Who are you, Kreskin?

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Here's what you wrote:

I'm sure you all know about my not-so-secret addiction to the unsellable "First Name + S" .ca domains....

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It its such basic english, then you improperly used quotes yourself. In essence, you started it, to some degree he just mimicked your usage.

So then in the very next post, he wrote:

Had another inquiry for a 'CityRealty'.com in Canada, offered $1500 CAD and I countered $1900. they'll let me know if they decide to go ahead.

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By the fact that the .com wasn't included in the quotes, I think it was quite obvious the quotes weren't meant to indicate the domain was literally CityRealty.com otherwise there was no reason to use quotes. Just like you didn't use quotes in a literal and proper english usage, I think in both cases, most people were able to interpret the intent of the writer.

Let's just agree to disagree and I was just trying to illustrate better ways to express a variable in a domain name, and his subsequent (City)Realty.com was perfect and I'm sure no one was confused about that.

He outdid my efforts in terms of consistency and brevity, and I think I'll use brackets instead of spaces from now: (first name)+s.ca.

Now back to fighting over actual domains.

Here's me looking for (cough) 'buyers' who will actually pay their sales invoices.



I'm 1-for-8 this month (including 0-2 at GD, where I rarely get stiffed) ....

Here's my pearl of wisdom for the day:

If you use a Make Offer lander and include a minimum offer amount (hidden or visible) then 80-90% of buyers will think they can purchase the domain for that price.

It doesn't matter if your min offer is $20 or $500 or $1,000 or $5,000, if you counter a min offer (even by a small amount) the vast majority of people will either a) send back the same minimum bid (or my favorite, the min offer + $1), b) never respond, or c) whine like babies or get angry concerning this 'new/switched/higher price'.

There doesn't seem to be any way around this startling lack of understanding in many potential buyers on what a "minimum offer" actually means in domain sales. I have been consistently raising my min offer to see if a higher one changes this mentality. Nope, and I guess I'm attracting the same kind of people who bid the opening min of $20 on a PS5 auction, then immediately email the seller asking why he hasn't shipped it yet.

I've progressed from a min offer of $20, to $100 to $200 to $300 to $500 to $1,000 and I've even increased some of my popular domains to $2,000 or $3,000 to keep away the regulars. But absolutely nothing changes - they see "minimum offer" and their mind translates it to "buy it now".

Today's example was really weird and clearly illustrates what I'm talking about. I had a domain that receives lots of offers, but all very low 4-figures, so I jacked the min offer to $2K as a bidder qualification. Then I get a $2K offer today and because I really don't really like the name, I counter at only $2850 hoping to make a quick sale. But this guy immediately goes off on me for "switching prices" and "tricking him", so not wanting to raise my blood pressure, I just deleted the domain and will relist it in a month or so.

Since a minimum offer can mean different things in different sectors (like stocks) and Canada has the lowest literacy rate in the Western world, I really think that Dan, Sedo, GD, Afternic et al need to put "floating/hover text" over the "Minimum Offer" and give a definition something like:

Some good points to consider there.

DomainRecap said:

If you use a Make Offer lander and include a minimum offer amount (hidden or visible) then 80-90% of buyers will think they can purchase the domain for that price.

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One has to consider the minimum offer carefully, would you actually sell for that amount?

In my case I consider the number carefully but it also leaves an opening for the rare situation that a large corporation comes calling. That is why some of mine are offers and not BIN, if Facebook bids on follow.ca you can be assured I am raising the amount over minimum offer. In most other cases, if a smaller business comes calling I will probably sell for the number I have set as minimum offer. Again, the reason I have it set at offer is it gives me leeway instead of locking in the price. It basically means its a negotiation and we have to agree on the price while making it clear what my minimum expectations are.

MapleDots said:

One has to consider the minimum offer carefully, would you actually sell for that amount?

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Says the guy who recommended $20 minimum offer prices on GoDaddy (to determine potential demand on new domains) and as you have stated many times in the past the Minimum Offer has absolutely nothing to do with the BIN and is simply a qualifying limit to make sure the potential buyer is not a total hobo.

DomainRecap said:

Says the guy who recommended $20 minimum offer prices on GoDaddy (to determine potential demand on new domains) and as you have stated many times in the past the Minimum Offer has absolutely nothing to do with the BIN and is simply a qualifying limit to make sure the potential buyer is not a total hobo.

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That was a totally different situation, I was just gauging godaddy traffic. On my landers I set my minimum offers as realistic as I could but that's the beauty of OFFERS, you can still change them on a per case basis.