This will be the warmest TBR of the year
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This will be the warmest TBR of the year
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Amazingly, both are on this week's TBR list:
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This week's list doesn't look much better than last week's and I'm having a really hard time getting through it.
Anything after warm is cold
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Even so, I am having a really HARD time.
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I think there is really something wrong with the world right now.
I recently got an impromptu offer on a premium 1-word domain from a real broker/rep at a real media company of significant size (I requested to email him back at his corporate address to confirm - plus the phone number jived), and get this, once we get into it, he says his client is prepared to pay $300 and no more.
WTF? Why did he set up a meeting for this ultimate lowball? How in the world is this "client" (if he or she even exists - front-runner alert!) paying their rather-significant bills to a large media/advertising company and then have the gall to offer $300 max, and in CAD, on a premium I've received multiple 4-figure offers on (holding out for low-5).
The "company" (again, if it even exists) probably spent more than $300 in hourly rates to get this nimrod to contact and (cough) negotiate with me. And this broker/media rep must be an absolute genius to think this is a viable offer. It's more likely the rep is front-running on an existing client and trying to make money off both ends.
I essentially told him to screw off and not to waste my valuable time by bothering me again - I am auto-deleting any further email from this hammerhead that doesn't have a firm offer of $10K or more. I swear there is a huge group of people out there getting paid to do nothing but irritate me and waste my time.
This just solidifies my resolve to take October off and not respond to anything that isn't at or above my sell range. No more counters, no more negotiations without a firm offer, and no more setting up very-specific times for phone meetings with company reps only to have these retards offer a few hundred dollars.
I recently got an impromptu offer on a premium 1-word domain from a real broker/rep at a real media company of significant size (I requested to email him back at his corporate address to confirm - plus the phone number jived), and get this, once we get into it, he says his client is prepared to pay $300 and no more.
WTF? Why did he set up a meeting for this ultimate lowball? How in the world is this "client" (if he or she even exists - front-runner alert!) paying their rather-significant bills to a large media/advertising company and then have the gall to offer $300 max, and in CAD, on a premium I've received multiple 4-figure offers on (holding out for low-5).
The "company" (again, if it even exists) probably spent more than $300 in hourly rates to get this nimrod to contact and (cough) negotiate with me. And this broker/media rep must be an absolute genius to think this is a viable offer. It's more likely the rep is front-running on an existing client and trying to make money off both ends.
I essentially told him to screw off and not to waste my valuable time by bothering me again - I am auto-deleting any further email from this hammerhead that doesn't have a firm offer of $10K or more. I swear there is a huge group of people out there getting paid to do nothing but irritate me and waste my time.
This just solidifies my resolve to take October off and not respond to anything that isn't at or above my sell range. No more counters, no more negotiations without a firm offer, and no more setting up very-specific times for phone meetings with company reps only to have these retards offer a few hundred dollars.
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@DomainRecap: What platform were you using when you got the offer? Dan, Bodis, or was it a direct inquiry to your website?
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Through the CIRA email (this is how I usually get corporate inquiries), and like I said, before initiating any contact I confirmed the rep and media company identity through phone and email.
And this kind of BS has never happened before.
And this kind of BS has never happened before.
rlm
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I think there is really something wrong with the world right now.
I recently got an impromptu offer on a premium 1-word domain from a real broker/rep at a real media company of significant size (I requested to email him back at his corporate address to confirm - plus the phone number jived), and get this, once we get into it, he says his client is prepared to pay $300 and no more.
WTF? Why did he set up a meeting for this ultimate lowball? How in the world is this "client" (if he or she even exists - front-runner alert!) paying their rather-significant bills to a large media/advertising company and then have the gall to offer $300 max, and in CAD, on a premium I've received multiple 4-figure offers on (holding out for low-5).
The "company" (again, if it even exists) probably spent more than $300 in hourly rates to get this nimrod to contact and (cough) negotiate with me. And this broker/media rep must be an absolute genius to think this is a viable offer. It's more likely the rep is front-running on an existing client and trying to make money off both ends.
I essentially told him to screw off and not to waste my valuable time by bothering me again - I am auto-deleting any further email from this hammerhead that doesn't have a firm offer of $10K or more. I swear there is a huge group of people out there getting paid to do nothing but irritate me and waste my time.
This just solidifies my resolve to take October off and not respond to anything that isn't at or above my sell range. No more counters, no more negotiations without a firm offer, and no more setting up very-specific times for phone meetings with company reps only to have these retards offer a few hundred dollars.
You really can't lose your cool over stuff like that. Laugh about it for sure, but don't let it get under your skin. If you want hassle free negotiations, just tell them what you want right from the start and that its non-negotiable. Easy Peasy. If you want to wait for offers and then haggle? Well then you get what you ask for... Sure it is frustrating, but it comes with the territory if you're doing the make-an-offer thing.
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You can say what you want about my temperament, but from your comments I think you might want to read my post again and not just skim.
I get "make an offer" offers from Dan, GD, etc. all day long, and if I got angry and posted about each lowball I'd crash the DN server.
This was much different and was an unsolicited email through CIRA from a relatively large media/marketing company (that I confirmed through email and phone) who then scheduled an appointment for us to "work out the details". I actually moved another appointment to do this, as I've had this happen a few times and it's always been "big money".
So yes, when Nimrod Jack offered up "$300 max" as his price (and it was in CAD and well below my forwarded min-offer at Dan), I was quite angry, as I had not only set aside valuable time for this retard, but did so in a time period I had allotted for another appointment. This is not just "another lowball" it's an a-hole who is purposefully trying to be a jerk by wasting my time, undercutting my Dan price, and potentially screwing up my timeline (it was the only time he had this week
).Likely a frontrunner looking to resell to a client or one of those idiots who tell clients gibberish like "just let me talk to him and work my magic".
Either way, I told him to suck it and not bother me again, as well as to never schedule a sales meeting during business hours with $300 jingling around in your pocket. If you think I was wrong to be angry with this doorknob, then fine, but I'd estimate the majority of people would not be impressed with his behavior.
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And RLM, be honest has this ever happened to you?
A relatively-large marketing firm with offices in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver contacts you unsolicited through the CIRA, then asks you to attend a meeting to "work out the details" on the sale of a premium 1-word domain (with multiple 4-figure offers, so it has obvious worth), and then after jumping through all the hoops to open up the time space, they offer you $300 CAD and not one penny more?
I never have, and I've never seen anything like it in my many years of business experience. Normal people just don't pull this kind of crap, which is why I posted the scenario, as it's totally and irrevocably screwed up.
If you regularly have large marketing companies contacting you unsolicited on premium 1-word domains, asking you to block off an hour during business hours to "work out the details", and then offering you $300 CAD max, I feel sorry for you.
A relatively-large marketing firm with offices in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver contacts you unsolicited through the CIRA, then asks you to attend a meeting to "work out the details" on the sale of a premium 1-word domain (with multiple 4-figure offers, so it has obvious worth), and then after jumping through all the hoops to open up the time space, they offer you $300 CAD and not one penny more?
I never have, and I've never seen anything like it in my many years of business experience. Normal people just don't pull this kind of crap, which is why I posted the scenario, as it's totally and irrevocably screwed up.
If you regularly have large marketing companies contacting you unsolicited on premium 1-word domains, asking you to block off an hour during business hours to "work out the details", and then offering you $300 CAD max, I feel sorry for you.
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I’ve been in this business a long time. I haven’t had one reason to ever attend any meeting regarding a domain name sale. All my communication is done by email and there’s never a need for anything else. I’ve done very large transactions with big businesses and never has one wanted to speak on the telephone or attend a meeting. Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.
I had a few inquiries a couple of weeks back on a domain and I declined the low ball offers. My cell phone rang and I was with a client so I was not able to answer it. The phone rang 3 more times that day and it was the ceo of a startup wanting one of my better domains. We scheduled more calls etc and eventually he understood that he would not get the domain cheaply. He did not seem turned of by that and simply stated he needed to talk to his share holders.
So I have scheduled meetings via phone with potential clients but I also provide a full array of contact options on my website which invites that.
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Just the kind of reply I'd expect from you.
You've never ever had a phone meeting with a potential corporate buyer in your entire life? Based on your "I only sell for $15K or higher" statements I find that impossible to believe, because at a certain price level, most corporations want to talk over financial stuff (escrow, payment types, timing), or potential agreements and contracts, get IT involved with transfers and site changes, etc.
These guys are not going to just "toss you $20K and hope for the best". That's not how they got to be in charge of a business.
I have been part of 3 conference calls for sales in the last year and all have resulted in significant sales, and the last one involved me talking to a high-up executive about pricing and escrow, and then being turned over to IT to go through the actual transfer details and timing. The last IT guy couldn't stop talking about the price and "how he'd never pay that much" - that's why you're not running the company buddy.
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I'm sure I don't get as many as you, just for that reason, but I have had 3 sales go that way this year and I think it's because these guys were hesitant to deal with Dan, and contacted me through CIRA (one went through my Registrar) to get that person-to-person contact and go through the nitty gritty details.
I'm totally open to that avenue, unless of course you're a drooling, lowballing nimrod looking to waste my time.
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Just the kind of reply I'd expect from you.
You've never ever had a phone meeting with a potential corporate buyer in your entire life? Based on your "I only sell for $15K or higher" statements I find that impossible to believe, because at a certain price level, most corporations want to talk over financial stuff (escrow, payment types, timing), or potential agreements and contracts, get IT involved with transfers and site changes, etc.
These guys are not going to just "toss you $20K and hope for the best". That's not how they got to be in charge of a business.
I have been part of 3 conference calls for sales in the last year and all have resulted in significant sales, and the last one involved me talking to a high-up executive about pricing and escrow, and then being turned over to IT to go through the actual transfer details and timing. The last IT guy couldn't stop talking about the price and "how he'd never pay that much" - that's why you're not running the company buddy.
Clearly you are clueless. I’ve had transactions with Amazon, GM etc. All of them went through without a single phone call. All email. Keep pretending as if you know it all.
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I don’t doubt you will get phone calls if you publish that info. When someone wants a domain and the only method of contact is by email and you keep it that way I assure you it will remain that way. I’ve never had one person say they will only complete transaction by phone or that they have to discuss with me over the phone. It just doesn’t happen. Plus I want a record of every conversation. It has worked for me the last 25+ years.
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Clearly you are clueless to think that your "I'm a Hermit" anti-social strategy is employed by everyone else in the world. I'm not afraid of anything or anyone and have no problem with personal contact.
Just for fun, ask Esdiel about when he went to negotiate with a buyer IN PERSON - it will probably give you a stroke.
I find it very amusing that you can try to put on the mask of "human being" for short periods of time, but your true a-hole colors always come through in the end. You'll always be a rude anus and everyone knows it.
Yeah, I prefer email too but sometimes I can convey better by phone. When I hear the tone and the attitude I can better judge if it's real or just BS.
So I don't mind them calling and sometimes when the emails get winded I actually encourage it and tell them to call me because I don't want to type out a long response.
However... if at any time I start to feel my time is being wasted I usually end the conversation and ask them seek something cheaper until they can afford a premium domain. HeHe.... that always evokes some colourful responses.
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