Is Pierre a REAL conservative? (2.Viewing)

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I will add that I would vote for anyone who I thought had a great chance of winning who’s against MASS immigration. This is a major part of why Canada has/is slowly going down the toilet.
 
Sure I've got some complaints, and it aint perfect here, and it does seem to be getting worse thanks to lib policies. But I've made that big move a handful of times in life and one of those led me to Canada, so I'm all for it, if the timing is right. But at this stage, with our kids having their own families, I can't leave them behind. So for me it's either change it or live with it... And we all know that as western Canadians, we don't get any say. So its up to the Ontario & Quebec morons to wake up and fix it. I'm stuck living with it either way. So please don't leave - stick around and help fix it for the rest of us!

Ultimately I've got a pretty good lifestyle, and every place has its own set of negatives. Even if I didn't have kids to anchor me now, I really haven't found a place I'd call perfect enough to justify a permanent move to anyways. Lots of fantastic places to visit around the world! But none for a permanent move. I love my 4 seasons in BC.
 
Im considering leaving Canada for some place tropical if the Liberals win.

Now that I am winding down my other businesses there is no reason to stay. Taxes are insane and health care sucks.
I know 2 different couples that moved to Costa Rica and the USA in 2022, blaming their moves on Covid restrictions and blaming the "Liberals" for taking away all their "Freedoms" - they have both since moved back to Canada. You know what they say about the "Grass being Greener..."
 
You know what they say about the "Grass being Greener..."

Basically the world is going to HeII in a handbasket, and with western nations like Canada and the EU firmly controlled by foreign interests, there is no longer any grass and what we have is not getting any greener.

It's clear that various foreign interests want control of our vast resources, so they're invading en masse via migration and paying off politicians like Trudeau to turn a blind eye. Once the voting numbers turn that final corner, generational Canadians are in for a rude awakening and Trudeau will go down in infamy alongside history's villains like Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Hussein, and Amin.
 
If Canada is such a bad place it does not to seem to make sense to invest in and promote ca. Let them drop!
 
I will add that I would vote for anyone who I thought had a great chance of winning who’s against MASS immigration.

Never happen as there is just way too much foreign money out there to facilitate a "friendly invasion" of Canada, and politicians didn't get into the business for the base salary.

Why do you think Trudeau took in almost a million Khalistani militants and terrorists when no one else in the world wanted to touch them with a 10-foot pole? Because India needed them gone, and Trudeau was amenable to the arrangement. 💰💰💰🤑
 
If I had my choice I'd like the PPC to run things, but even with all of today's problems it hasn't gotten bad enough for enough Canadians to go to what they believe is that far right, even though most of the policies I read from them mostly seem like common sense. Even though the Conservatives aren't perfect they are miles better than the Liberals and have promised to undo a lot of the Liberal nonsense of the past 10 years, and they have a good chance to actually win. So a Conservative majority win is the best we can hope for, then just hold the Conservatives to the fire to keep all the promises they've made. I'm tired of the Liberals being able to hang on with a minority and other leftist parties support. Also hoping to see the NDP get demolished in the election to non-party status. It is amazing that it's even still a race between the Liberals and the Conservatives from what the polls show, that just shows how complacent so many Canadians still are. I really fear for what the next four years will be like if the Liberals win and are able to hold on for that long, and at that point you can only blame Liberal voters who should know better but asked for it.
 
Isn't it funny how Justin Trudeau has completely disappeared from the headlines and from this election? The guy who ran the country for the past 10 years, Liberal party leader well into 2025, and he isn't there to run in this election on the record of his past 10 years? And from what the polls are showing many Canadians are falling for this bait and switch as a lot of the Liberal election promises and policies make it seem like they are running against themselves of the past 10 years. You also have to wonder how accurate are these polls. For example the polls had Hillary Clinton beating Trump in 2016 and we all know what happened there. We can only hope these polls are somehow being juiced by Liberal influence and funding of the mainstream media, and on election night we'll see that they were a complete sham.
 
IMHO - the more Right Wing the USA becomes, the more likely the Liberals will remain in Power because they represent the antithesis, rightly or wrongly, of the Republican Party. Women are losing their rights in the USA, and so women in Canada feel that to maintain their rights here they need to steer Left. Deportations in the USA are headlines here, and many voters have family and friends that want to come to Canada, so again, the USA (and you can thank TRUMP) are playing a much bigger part in our Election than they should.
 
Agreed on many points. The conservatives had what SHOULD have been a complete lock on winning given the liberal track record and the pretty universal call for change by anyone not a recent immigrant still trying to get their family over. But Trump's antics is causing many middle of the road common sense people to think twice about voting the with the far right in Canada. His antics and the quick Conservative drop in the polls seem to have a high degree of correlation, so if Conservatives don't win, I think a lot of blame will rightfully be on Trump.

Conservatives are claiming to want to cut GST on new home sales as well as in the construction supply chain to increase affordability. That's great for the younger generation looking to get in - and it is pretty well accepted that Canada has the worst ratio of home-price-to-income in the civilized world. Lowering housing prices in Canada appears to be an urgent and necessary intervention that needs to be made.

But on the flip-side, if that home-price-to-income ratio drops, that hurts older people needing the equity in their homes for retirement. It also means that many people who are buying into the real estate market now (or have done so relatively recently) may get screwed due to the fact their homes will be worth less in the future than what they paid them for. So if the existing homeowners think that through, they may not want to lower housing prices, certainly not dramatically. Even more so if they already have investment properties. If you're being told a party's primary goal is to reduce the value of the investments you've already made, do you really want to vote for them? It's not like real estate investments can be easily swapped out like a stock, especially one you live in.

It really isn't so simple to unwind all the damage done. It would have been much smarter to have been making small interventions all along rather than just blindly (or worse yet, purposefully) plugging along and make the problems worse.
 
There's a chance that the economy will do its job on house prices and that's all it will take to see prices drop. Weakening economy, recession, job losses... I don't think many real estate markets in Canada are strong right now, at least not like a few years ago. Most baby boomers try to stay in their homes as long as possible but at some point for health, mental or financial reasons they can't keep up a family home anymore and have to sell, the upper half of baby boomers are 70 to 80 years old now and I'm guessing the wave of them leaving their homes is well underway and still has a ways to go. When the economy gets tough people with assets sometimes have to sell, and that second or third investment property goes up on the market with all the others getting listed. If you're old enough you've seen times in Canada where it seemed like every third or fourth house on the block was up for sale, people just haven't seen that in a while. Immigration numbers have gone down and some people who have come to Canada recently find it too expensive and leave, so there goes that demand. The flipside with a bad economy is that more people then can't afford the homes even if they're dropping in price.

But all else being equal, I don't think it's the government's job to be building homes, or building or running anything in the economy. Does anyone really think the Liberals could run an efficient program that builds millions of homes when it's never even been done before. The government's job is to set the economic climate to encourage the market to build more homes, so yes drop the GST on new homes, drop taxes on homes, cut the red tape and bureaucracy, lower high fees, streamline and cut down on permitting times. For years government (federal, provincial, municipal) have seen the construction business as a cash cow and it has been over taxed, had multiple increasing fees, and long wait times to do anything. When you look at everything a home or condo builder has to go through in terms of dealing with government in construction you wonder how anything ever gets done, and it isn't surprising how housing prices have gotten so high because it all gets passed on to the buyer in the end.
 
it is pretty well accepted that Canada has the worst ratio of home-price-to-income in the civilized world.
I knew it was bad, that this wasn't well known to me the way it was stated here. So I took a look at the data I could find. Especially after knowing how this plays out in some US cities.

For anybody else who is interest - most of the data I found is from 2023, here are some links. Canada is definitely in the top 10 here with Vancouver and Toronto being the worst.



Ranked: 15 of the world’s least affordable housing markets
RankCityHousing Median Multiple
1Hong Kong18.8
2Sydney13.3
3Vancouver12.0
4Honolulu11.8
5San Jose11.5
6Los Angeles11.3
7Auckland10.8
8San Francisco10.7
9Melbourne9.9
10Toronto9.5
11San Diego9.4
12London8.7
13Miami8.5
14Adelaide8.2
15Bournemouth & Dorset8.0

Mapped: The World’s Least Affordable Housing Markets in 2024

RankMetropolitan MarketCountryMedian price-to-income
ratio
1Hong Kong (SAR)🇨🇳 China16.7
2Sydney🇦🇺 Australia13.8
3Vancouver🇨🇦 Canada12.3
4San Jose🇺🇸 U.S.11.9
5Los Angeles🇺🇸 U.S.10.9
6Honolulu🇺🇸 U.S.10.5
7Melbourne🇦🇺 Australia9.8
8San Francisco🇺🇸 U.S.9.7
9Adelaide🇦🇺 Australia9.7
10San Diego🇺🇸 U.S.9.5
11Toronto🇨🇦 Canada9.3
12Auckland🇳🇿 New Zealand8.2

I also found this interesting: Property Prices Index by Country 2025 , as it contains some non-western countries as well, obviously with a lot of other factors. I also was curious where there European countries would end up, considering the 1/3 of people rent there vs. own/buy real estate.

Rising housing costs in the EU: the facts (infographics) | Topics | European Parliament
 

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