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Have you ever said f**k off on a negotiation?


I swear I'm about to
 
lol. Yeah, I get that level of stupidity on occasion too. Are people that stupid? Maybe some, but its hard to believe, isn't it?

I get still get monthly $5K offers on a domain I sold for $200K USD more than two years ago. The domain is now developed. You wonder how is that possible? It's lazy fu@#s who bought a database of old whois information fishing for someone who doesn't know what their doing. They're fishing in a pond that's been fished out for a decade or more, yet for some reason they keep trying. Those are the ones I tell to fu@# off.
 
"Obviously usage or budget can never be a determinant of domain name prices."

That shuts the hobos up real quick.
 
I also highly recommend raising the minimum bid on domains like this, as I used to have $20-$100 limits and they just attracted losers like flies to sheit.

I used to categorize these lowball bids with "buyer interest" but when I really analyzed what's going on, that assumption was 100% incorrect and it was just jerks, fleabags, ditchpigs and other hammerheads looking to scam, all loaded with "I'm a poor student", "Our budget is only $xxx" and "It's just for a school course", etc. lies and other BS.

Once I jacked it to up $300-$800 (and $2000-$5000 in some cases), my buyer quality improved exponentially and these offers started turning into sales on a much, much, much higher rate. I no longer had to waste valuable time dealing with itinerant vagrants, and these "domain cockroaches" all scurried off to other people's domain listings. :D
 
setting even a $500 or $1000 minimum can get rid of a lot of the tire kickers on names you would never sell in that range.
 
+1 for setting a much higher minimum bid
 
It would be a great psychological study about minimum bids vs expected sales price and its affect on a buyer's thought process.
 
rlm said:
It would be a great psychological study about minimum bids vs expected sales price and its affect on a buyer's thought process.

Scammers are out there every day looking for steals and they use the minimum bid as their guide. This is not "buyer confusion" or "price expectations" it's pure targeting, complete with the "I'm a poor student and I need this domain for a project" story.

When I used $20 min-bids at GoDaddy (not even forwarding traffic there) my email box would be full of scammers, flippers and other hammerheads actually trying to buy the domains for that price. And if you ignored them, they just kept sending the min-bid over and over. These jokers were bottom of the barrel losers mass-bidding $20 across the board at GD, and hoping a few sellers would hit the wrong button and accept their lowball.

I jumped my min bid to $100, and while that slowed the emails down, it wasn't high enough to totally get rid of these pests, but I found that $300 was a happy medium. You still get enough action to use it as a barometer of interest but your offer-to-sales rate jumps off the chart compared to $20-$100, where your auctions absolutely get infested with lowballing scammers.
 
I usually have my domains set at 1k minimum offer, don't know how this domain was set on less but the poor student syndrome did not take long to rear its head. o_O
 
I have most of my domains priced now, starting at around $2000 and up into 5 figs, and a few in 6 figs. Been really quiet since March, crickets.
 
domains said:
I have most of my domains priced now, starting at around $2000 and up into 5 figs, and a few in 6 figs. Been really quiet since March, crickets.

It's been a tough .CA market over the last few months.
 
domains said:
Did their name change from XXXXXXX to YYYYYYYY?

I really wish people would block out those names when posting Dan screenshots, as it's useful feature that will probably get quickly deleted the more times it's promoted online.
 
DomainRecap said:
I really wish people would block out those names when posting Dan screenshots, as it's useful feature that will probably get quickly deleted the more times it's promoted online.


I can assure you both names are not real
 
MapleDots said:
I can assure you both names are not real

Huh? What does that have to do with anything? It's the fact that there is a name shown, regardless of whether you bagged a couple of nitwit "IP Freely" lowballers.

Many business people do leave their real names (if they actually want to buy it) and mark my words, posts like this are cooking the golden goose on a very nice seller feature.
 
DomainRecap said:
Huh? What does that have to do with anything? It's the fact that there is a name shown, regardless of whether you bagged a couple of nitwit "IP Freely" lowballers.

Many business people do leave their real names (if they actually want to buy it) and mark my words, posts like this are cooking the golden goose on a very nice seller feature.

I would never post a legitimate negotiation and I would hope other sellers would do the same.


That said I do see your point, if people keep posting the names maybe dan will remove that feature.

Again, the opposite site of that, dan is very open and often supplies me with full customer details if a domain sells and the end user does not pay. They allow you to continue in private if necessary or even take legal action thereof.
 
MapleDots said:
That said I do see your point, if people keep posting the names maybe dan will remove that feature.

Exactly, and it's not just me as a lot of others are bringing this up as well. Right now the DAN seller has some nice tools, but the more these transaction details are posted on forums or Twitter or Facebook, then the more potential seller comments that Dan receives, the quicker this will all come to an end.

I've seen this scenario occur a hundred times before and although it might already be too late to put this cat back in the bag, it always comes back to the old adage:

Loose Lips Sink Ships.
 
I never actually said f*** off, but I have closed negotiations with a "We're Done" and walked away.
I'm not really one for burning bridges, and a couple of those have come back later (sometimes much later) to meet my price.

Tire kickers I just ghost after the 2nd or 3rd convo.
But sometimes they come back with a reasonable starting point later as well.

So you never know. ;)
No sense being rude, unless it's leading to an actual fight.

JMO

Peace,
Cy
 
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I have never responded in such a fashion. Nothing to gain from it.

Reminds me of a funny story my father told me.

He was driving into the office one day when someone became belligerent about my Dad’s driving. Sure enough, the gentleman who did all the cursing was already at the office to start his new job.

Yep, pack up your stuff, you don’t work here.
 
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