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MapleDots · Feb 11, 2021

Hello fellow members..

I wanted to ask if everyone was ok with TBR prices and sold prices being posted on the forum?
Someone said they felt our members might not like the prices posted so I thought I would ask.

Personally I think as much as possible we should be posting sold prices.
It is important for us to document this to show people larger sales and even how TBR is taking off.

Rick Schwartz said this in one of his posts...
He said he will tell anyone what he paid for a domain because it says nothing about the value of a domain. It just means someone did not recognize the value in it.

I know I am misquoting a bit on that, I will try to find it but I am of the same mind. Each domain is unique and if you want it you have to pay the price or look for something else.

Guys, I am eager to make this forum home for all .ca information.
DN.ca does not charge member fees, we do not display ads, we are receptive and listen to our members. DN was built from the ground up to be for Canadians and to become a FREE resource for .ca information in Canada.

I have donated one of my best domains to this project and I will continue to fund any growth necessary, the only thing I ask in return is that you help me build it. If you post .ca information somewhere else please consider posting it here as well. I can only do this if we do it as a team and I need daily engagement by anyone that can help out.

Thank you so much guys, I truly do appreciate your help to date.

theinvestor · Feb 11, 2021

There was a time in the past where I would see TBR sales being reported. I am not sure if this was being reported by individuals or by the registrars. Pool.com used to have many sales reported but I can’t recall if that was due to them having auctions as well. My memory is a bit foggy as during that time I was focusing my attention more on .com.

I think as a community in order to build it we must be open with prices. Even if those are TBR prices. We also must realize that the average end user looking to pick up a domain isn’t going around searching to see what price a domain was picked up for. They rarely can figure out how long a domain has even been registered.

So I think the decision should be based on whether we think having these TBR prices public is beneficial. Surely even when you look at these reported sales from SEDO you will see that they can be even lower than TBR prices.

DomainRecap · Feb 11, 2021

I don't mind, but it's certainly gong to piss off any investor buying said domains for resale to have their cost price highlighted across the Internet for every potential buyer to see. It's hard enough getting cheap Canadian companies to shell out money without giving the lowballers more ammunition.

Personally I think prices should be limited to the very cream of the crop TBR auctions, so as not to artificially lower any sales charts with junk domains selling for 3-figures or something, as that's the last thing the .CA market needs. I'd say a $2K minimum at least for inclusion, but again, this type of publicity has definite repercussions and could lead to fewer big investors taking part in the forum.

I know if I was buying $10K TBR premiums that I hoped to resell for high 5-figures/low 6-figures and saw these wholesale prices promoted on here for all to see, the door couldn't hit my ass quick enough.

theinvestor · Feb 11, 2021

If I bought a domain for $500 10 years ago it doesn’t mean I am willing to sell it for $550 today.

When was the last time you received an offer and have been told the price you purchased it at?

If someone wants your domain you are dictating the price. It’s not preventing sales because you have a published domain purchase.

Everyone wants transparency in the .CA market. We want bidders to be shown when we’re in auctions. Yet, when we talk about pricing being open we become reluctant. We have a unique system with TBR where we sometimes get lucky and get a steal on a top domain.

If we can’t push for an open system we are likely being screwed somehow. The .CA market is small. How many people are really competing weekly in these TBR auctions? Yet we see every week thousands of dollars being bid on domains.

MapleDots · Feb 11, 2021

DomainRecap said:
I know if I was buying $10K TBR premiums that I hoped to resell for high 5-figures/low 6-figures and saw these wholesale prices promoted on here for all to see, the door couldn't hit my ass quick enough.

So lets take this hypothetical investor

If he posts here or not it is not relevant to the fact that we can gather that information and post it.
So regardless if the person who paid the TBR price is a member here or not it would not change the data.

In fact I would argue that being a member would grant him special privilege's because he could make a request to disguise the domain from google indexing.

So say a non member pays 10k at TBR, we post it and there is nothing he can do about it.

A member on the other hand can approach the forum moderator and say... hey I have a deal going on this could you disguise it so it does not get indexed.

So you see, we probably will post TBR results because they are public information. A member can always make a request from the moderator. We will make the changes to facilitate a sale. It is in our best interest to have happy members and that is one of the reasons other forums lose so many members. We have no draconian rules, we only have common sense and smart moderators to help assist our members.

So I think the information will filter it's way in regardless, however we are in a unique situation that we can decide as a group how best to display that information so it benefits the investor and still have it available as a resource.

DomainRecap · Feb 12, 2021

I still believe that unless you can get a full weekly TBR price list from MyID and Siber, it runs the obvious risk of being used as a selective tool for backstabbing, a la "I was outbid and lost, so I'll post the price so future buyers will see it".

And again, I don't take part in the TBR at these price levels, so I don't have a dog in this race, but I still talk to people who do not appreciate wholesale prices being made public, and also understand the human nature of those who may feel anger at losing a high-end auction.

Without access to full and impartial TBR data, it's a very slippery slope and not something I would get involved in personally.

Nafti · Feb 12, 2021