SOLD.ca Ora.ca Sold For $6,825 USD By Ilze Kaulins-Plaskacz (1.Viewing)

She seems to be on a roll lately.
 
MapleDots said:
She is selling them cheaper than she used to.
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I know exactly what you mean, but these are still valid prices.

The Canadian economy is in the dumps too and sometimes to you have to make concessions to keep the cashflow going.
 
Hello everybody… No, I am not selling my domains cheaper. If I sell them cheaper, I’m not reporting them, lol. Three letter acronyms are premium and because I have such a huge portfolio I don’t have to sell them. I wish the people on this forum would report sales to Ron Jackson. The Canadian domain market is slowing down considerably. If you have a good domain, you should hang onto it because in the end, it really is an investment. The more people that record their sales, the better it is for all of us. Speculating Is a waste of time.
 
DomainRecap said:
I know exactly what you mean, but these are still valid prices.

The Canadian economy is in the dumps too and sometimes to you have to make concessions to keep the cashflow going.
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You are so correct and these are exactly my comments in the upcoming State of the industry on the DN Journal report for 2023. The sales are slowing down due to the economy but I’m not selling my domains at low prices, because I feel that we’re going to have an upswing once certain situations in our political arena change
 
Ilze said:
The Canadian domain market is slowing down considerably.
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I don't think people who have little experience with .CA really understand how hard it is to sell .CA domains, even in the best of times. And with the Canadian economy in the toilet, mass immigration wreaking havoc on services and housing, and the CEBA small business loans coming due on January 18, this just makes an already-difficult job even tougher.

Not counting the odd US or EU company looking to expand into Canada, the .CA market is limited to residents, and that doesn't represent even a half a percentage point of the potential market for .COM or any of the other "open" TLDs.

If you want to be .CA profitable and not just a hobbyist who sits on their domains for a decade or two, then you need to buy the very best domains at the lowest possible price. This strategy, needless to say, is virtually impossible in the current TBR market. You also need to sell them at the optimal price that not only creates profit on your portfolio, but also doesn't leave money on the table.

Over time, I'm really starting to understand and respect RLM's "bleed the buyer dry" strategy :D. You really need to maximize the value of each .CA domain acquisition, as there is not an unending supply of potential buyers, even for the top premium domains. RLM recently stated a 0.5% STR (sell-through rate) for his portfolio, but by going for the maximum price and playing the 'long game', he probably makes a lot more money (while retaining value) than someone with a more aggressive 1.5-2% STR.

Like poker, domaining is a hard way to make an easy living, and .CA domaining is even harder still. But no matter your strategy, or lack thereof, here's hoping that 2024 is a good year for domain sales.
 
DomainRecap said:
I don't think people who have little experience with .CA really understand how hard it is to sell .CA domains, even in the best of times. And with the Canadian economy in the toilet, mass immigration wreaking havoc on services and housing, and the CEBA small business loans coming due on January 18, this just makes an already-difficult job even tougher.

Not counting the odd US or EU company looking to expand into Canada, the .CA market is limited to residents, and that doesn't represent even a half a percentage point of the potential market for .COM or any of the other "open" TLDs.

If you want to be .CA profitable and not just a hobbyist who sits on their domains for a decade or two, then you need to buy the very best domains at the lowest possible price. This strategy, needless to say, is virtually impossible in the current TBR market. You also need to sell them at the optimal price that not only creates profit on your portfolio, but also doesn't leave money on the table.

Over time, I'm really starting to understand and respect RLM's "bleed the buyer dry" strategy :D. You really need to maximize the value of each .CA domain acquisition, as there is not an unending supply of potential buyers, even for the top premium domains. RLM recently stated a 0.5% STR (sell-through rate) for his portfolio, but by going for the maximum price and playing the 'long game', he probably makes a lot more money (while retaining value) than someone with a more aggressive 1.5-2% STR.

Like poker, domaining is a hard way to make an easy living, and .CA domaining is even harder still. But no matter your strategy, or lack thereof, here's hoping that 2024 is a good year for domain sales.
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Well - the flip side perspective is that .CA domaining IS easy. Best job I've ever had, I don't need to rely on anyone else, and I can do it from anywhere in the world. If the economy is bad, companies need every advantage and buy good doamins. If the economy is good, well, they still buy good domains.
 
rlm said:
Well - the flip side perspective is that .CA domaining IS easy. Best job I've ever had, I don't need to rely on anyone else, and I can do it from anywhere in the world. If the economy is bad, companies need every advantage and buy good doamins. If the economy is good, well, they still buy good domains.
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You sound like the Domain King with his vault full of aged premiums, laughing as businesses madly try to raise the funds to buy one.

Of course it's easy... then. :LOL:

My comments were me imagining starting out from scratch right now, and that's a scary prospect with a) these high TBR prices and b) this crap economy.

Tony Twitter attempted something like that and set up brand new accounts at Dan, Afternic, etc. and proceeded to buy domains to fill them with, and see what the results would be - they weren't pretty. :poop:

All those domains purchased years ago at rock bottom prices are a huge asset that continues to pay off today, and I'm not sure you could repeat that with all the eyeballs on domains today. Maybe you could, but it would be a lot more work and require a lot more capital.

I do agree with you that the flexibility and freedom of selling domains is alluring and I think I'll be right there with you when I'm retired. Right now, the deadbeats and lowballers tend to be a bit of an irritant to my everyday life.
 
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DomainRecap said:
You sound like the Domain King with his vault full of aged premiums, laughing as businesses madly try to raise the funds to buy one.

Of course it's easy... then. :LOL:
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Well you might presume that I have a vault full of aged premiums that I bought for reg fees way back in the day, and yes, that would make it easy. But 50% of my 2023 sales revenue came from domains I bought in the 2020s, so there goes that theory.

And when I started, my focus was on PPC domains, in fact I probably carry to this day way too many keyword domains that used to make PPC that more than paid for themselves that no longer do. I might make the rare sale on a domain like that, but one day I'll probably categorize my domains and track sales by category and realize that there are categories I bought in the 2000's that are dead weight now. But the reality is my investing strategies are always evolving and getting better. I'm not resting on a portolio of premiums bought for reg fee 20 years ago.

You are the lovable but perpetual harbinger of doom in regards to TBR and the .CA economy, yet every week I'm pretty sure we both manage to find some bargains, so it always cracks me up to see you go on another tear about the economy and TBR prices. And yes, I do see that you have the potential to slowly grow this into a nice retirement gig for yourself. You do the research that others don't.

So while I'm not trying to scare anyone off like @DomainRecap does, it is also not in my interest to show people how to be a successful .CA domainer either... so I'll just leave it at that and quietly go back to domaining.

Honestly, that may be the real key. Because I don't have another job and this isn't just a hobby or side gig to me, that's the true difference maker. Time invested.
 
Great sale Ilze, loving the girl power

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rlm said:
You are the lovable but perpetual harbinger of doom in regards to TBR and the .CA economy, yet every week I'm pretty sure we both manage to find some bargains, so it always cracks me up to see you go on another tear about the economy and TBR prices.
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To be honest my comments are mostly due to December being a really, really bad month for domain sales, while last few years it was a windfall (as well it should be with 50% of businesses hitting their year-end), and lots of friends and colleagues beating the Doomsday Drum because of the factors I listed above.

And I think these are valid drumbeats that are going to be heard by everyone through 2024 and I hope people will be ready.

And I also think economic reality is starting to hit the TBR as well, as LLLs that would sell for $2K-$4K less than a year ago are now going for $700-$900. And look at 62.ca - it sold for $2750 in Oct and $750 relisted in Jan.

The market will always correct and I will always overcorrect.

rlm said:
Honestly, that may be the real key. Because I don't have another job and this isn't just a hobby or side gig to me, that's the true difference maker. Time invested.
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That's a valid point, and as you know I put a lot of time into this side hustle and therefore when I'm constantly harassed by scammers, lowballers and deadbeats, it's quite an irritating time-waster.

When I drop out of the real world and have more time to devote to kicking these drooling knotheads to the curb, I think it will be a lot less of a drain on me.
 
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