TBR Musings - August 4, 2021 (1.Viewing)

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The final is usually Monday morning
 
Groot said:
if it's all for the drop on the 4th, wouldn't it be set in stone?
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Registrars update the domain status all week, from Monday morning until late on Sunday night. So like jaydub says, look for final data on Monday morning.
 
DomainRecap said:
Registrars update the domain status all week, from Monday morning until late on Sunday night. So like jaydub says, look for final data on Monday morning.
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Yeah so [notify]Groot[/notify]

When the date August 4th gets announced there are still domains that come due between the announcement date and Aug 4th so CIRA adds them to the list. It kinda sucks that they are not all there right away because if you go through the early list you're really kinda wasting time.

A lot of domainers will be back at their day job on Monday and that gives the full time domainers a leg up to plan strategy because the part timers have to look after work on Monday when they are not as fresh and alert.

How else do you think [notify]rlm[/notify] got such a nice collection *ROFL*
 
Saw this TBR domain earlier in the week and my Spidey Sense went off. I've noticed the bidding has increased and I am not sure this is a good idea as it's an error COVID-drop and any "win" will almost certainly be greeted by a lawyer's letter.


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DomainRecap said:
Saw this TBR domain earlier in the week and my Spidey Sense went off. I've noticed the bidding has increased and I am not sure this is a good idea as it's an error COVID-drop and any "win" will almost certainly be greeted by a lawyer's letter.


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Not sure why anyone in their right mind would touch this….. Unless it’s someone from corporate bidding on behalf of the company.
 
Nafti said:
Not sure why anyone in their right mind would touch this….. Unless it’s someone from corporate bidding on behalf of the company.
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The "right mind" part comes to mind.

But I'm sure someone will win it thinking it's their path to riches, when all they'll be buying is a massive headache.
 
Longos...never heard the term before today. They didn't file a Canadian Trademark and yes I understand common law trademarks. If somebody had a use for the name in something other than groceries etc., I don't see the issue. PS. I don't have it on backorder.
 
aactive said:
Longos...never heard the term before today. They didn't file a Canadian Trademark and yes I understand common law trademarks. If somebody had a use for the name in something other than groceries etc., I don't see the issue. PS. I don't have it on backorder.
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It’s quite amazing a company of that size doesn’t have a TM on their name. They also own Grocery Gateway.
 
aactive said:
If somebody had a use for the name in something other than groceries etc., I don't see the issue.
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Obviously, but we both know that's not what's going to happen.
 
MapleDots said:
I bet twice that
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I think you'd have to be crazy to pay $1K wholesale for a plural like that, but given the influx of Pandemic Petes, insanity is the new normal.
 
DomainRecap said:
I think you'd have to be crazy to pay $1K wholesale for a plural like that, but given the influx of Pandemic Petes, insanity is the new normal.
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A car dealership dealing in used cars

Exotics.ca is easily a 5-10k sale to an end user


What does not make sense to you as an ordinary domain can be a treasure to the right end user.
I was seriously thinking of plunking down the $500 bucks when it was for sale in topic but I decided on another domain first. Was going to grab that one next until [notify]theinvestor[/notify] pointed out it was in TBR.

I would not sell Exotics.ca for less than 5k in my portfolio and would probably stand firm at 10k
 
Sorry but longos.ca is not a TM issue unless you have advertising. I own many last name .ca’s and some are plural. So what’s the issue?

If they are dumb enough to drop it. It’s fair game.

DomainRecap said:
The "right mind" part comes to mind.

But I'm sure someone will win it thinking it's their path to riches, when all they'll be buying is a massive headache.
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theinvestor said:
So what’s the issue?
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That the company is large, has been around for decades, advertises, has over 5K employees, and is well known enough to prove bad faith in a mid-2021 registration. It's not even a question.

I buy last names too, but I'm not going to be registering McDonalds.ca, Rogers.ca, Sears.ca, Bell.ca or McCain.ca if these drop.
 
DomainRecap said:
That the company is large, has been around for decades, advertises, has over 5K employees, and is well known enough to prove bad faith in a mid-2021 registration. It's not even a question.

I buy last names too, but I'm not going to be registering McDonalds.ca if it drops.
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That’s great. It doesn’t change the fact they don’t just have a right to the domain due to when you register it. Registering a domain is not bad faith. Neither is having a business for decades and having 5000 employees. That doesn’t prove bad faith. But why am I arguing with you? Just don’t bid on it. I have a feeling you bid on it thinking you can get it for $20. Now you know there’s competition and you mention it in thread. There are many worse names in TBR that are obvious TM’s. This is not one of them. Not even close.
 
theinvestor said:
That’s great. It doesn’t change the fact they don’t just have a right to the domain due to when you register it. Registering a domain is not bad faith. Neither is having a business for decades and having 5000 employees. That doesn’t prove bad faith.
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Of course it does, or do you not follow recent UDRP and Cyber-Squatting decisions? The size, notoriety, and longevity of a company are some of the most important factors in determining a bad faith registration, especially a recent one like this.

You seem to be mixed up between their absolute right to the Longo's TM across all industries (they don't have that) and their legal right to forcibly get back this specific domain name they've owned since the 90's (99.9999% they win in a CDRP or in court).

I have a feeling you bid on it thinking you can get it for $20. Now you know there’s competition and you mention it in thread.
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Wow, just when I think you can't sink any lower you push your mug even further down in the dirt.
 
Here is an excerpt from a CDRP regarding the domain “Belll.ca”.

“Paragraph 4.1 of the Policy places the onus on the Complainant to prove on a balance of probabilities that the Disputed Domain Name is confusingly similar to the Complainant’s Mark ( BELL family of trade-marks) and the Registrant has registered the Disputed Domain Name in bad faith. In addition the Complainant must adduce some evidence that the Registrant has no legitimate interest in the Disputed Domain Name.”

On this basis alone, registering a last name domain cannot be considered bad faith and in a CDRP they will rule in the favour of the registrant every time.

There has also never been a CDRP that I am aware of that has been transferred away from a registrant for a common last name. So, good luck trying on the merit that a business running off of a common last name can simply just take over the domain as they please.
 
LOL, you post a CDRP that isn't even BELL.ca, but a misspelled BELLL.ca, and even so, the domain was transferred to Bell. LOL LOL

Domain Name: belll.ca
OutCome: Transfer Granted
Response Filed: No
Panellist: Elizabeth Cuddihy, QC

Man, how does that foot taste?

And the reason no CDRP has been filed on a popular last-name drop like McDonalds.ca, Sears.ca, Bell.ca, Rogers.ca, McCain.ca, etc. etc. is a) we're not usually in a pandemic so these domains very rarely drop, b) most people are smart enough not to register a name that actively targets a large company, and c) a large firm like Bell, Rogers, et al will send the lawyers after you initially, whereby most sane individuals will just give it up like candy.

But go ahead and register it. Longos knows all about it and will either come after people in the auction or via their legal team. Good luck.
 
DomainRecap said:
LOL, you post a CDRP that isn't even BELL.ca, but a misspelled BELLL.ca, and even so, the domain was transferred to Bell. LOL LOL

Domain Name: belll.ca
OutCome: Transfer Granted
Response Filed: No
Panellist: Elizabeth Cuddihy, QC
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Yes, it was just to show you what’s required to WIN a dispute. It’s not simply just being confusingly similar. Even with a typo domain.
 
aactive said:
Longos...never heard the term before today.
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Yeah, fact is none of us would probably go after that domain if it were not the name of a company.


For me, I don't like the domain, nor do I need any headaches.

Now if it was a better domain I would risk the wrath of the company but for this one? meh...
 
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