Why a dot .ca domain CAN BE a bad idea for Canadian businesses (1.Viewing)

theinvestor said:
I think when you want factual information you just need to go right to the source.

https://developers.google.com/searc...en&visit_id=637701754700733859-875935548&rd=1
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Can't say I understand all of it but lots of interesting stuff here. Thanks.

I found the very last part particularly interesting:

Generic top-level domains

Generic top-level domains (gTLDs) are domains that aren't associated with specific locations. If your site has a generic top-level domain such as .com, .org, or any of the domains listed below, and wants to target users in a particular geographic location, explicitly set a country target using one of the methods described previously.

Google treats the following as gTLDs that can be geotargeted in Search Console:

Generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs): Unless a top-level domain is registered as a country code top-level domain (ccTLD) with ICANN, Google will treat any TLD that resolves through the IANA DNS root zone as a gTLD. Examples:
.com
.org
.edu
.gov
and many more...

Generic regional top-level domains: Although these domains are associated with a geographical region, they are generally treated as generic top-level domains (much like .com or .org):
.eu
.asia

Generic Country Code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs): Google treats some ccTLDs (such as .tv and .me) as gTLDs, as we've found that users and website owners frequently see these more generic than country-targeted. Here is a list of those ccTLDs (this list may change).

.ad
.as
.bz
.cc
.cd
.co
.dj
.fm
.io
.la
.me
.ms
.nu
.sc
.sr
.su
.tv
.tk
.ws
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Let me ask you this: do you know any American company using a dot US (.us) domain for their business? This domain extension exists, and yet no American company bothers with it.
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This is a shit argument too btw. He picks the absolute worst ccTLD to make his point, and ignores how successful so many other ccTLDs are around the world.

Like Morgan Linton and others have said many times, .COM is the United States’ ccTLD… Although I think .US can only continue to improve before getting worse. Zoom.us also gave them a little boost at least.

Again, I’m pretty sure they’re just bitter about not owning the .CA after all these years. It’s been owned by someone else since 2006…


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I am not really sure they are bitter. I mean the .com has been registered since 1997. There are truly many out there that don’t care about .CA.

I even had someone negotiate with me for a .com (in the mean time they hand registered the .ca) domain. It took a bit to negotiate and complete the sale. Once they took over the .com shortly after their registration lapsed for the .CA.

This is just one example how there are still many that still prefer .com. I would like to see CIRA do a bit more than just a couple of commercials to promote .CA.
 
I'm starting to lose sight about what exact issue we're discussing here. I never said .COM wasn’t king. It is, and everyone knows it.

I’d trade in almost all my .CA domains for the .COMs tomorrow if I could, because I would make more money. But that’s not realistic or going to happen, and I could never own all the equivalents in .com. The .COM isn’t my ballgame, nor is it the ballgame of most people here on a .CA forum. The fact .COM is king worldwide also doesn't speak to the popularity of .CA within Canada.

The fact that a Canadian company called "Ottawa Life" is going out of their way to argue why .CA can bad for business certainly aligns with my hypothesis. And just because they might not have cared about ottawalife.ca prior to 2006 doesn't mean they don't care today.
 
Esdiel said:
Where do ccTLDs like .CO.UK, .DE and .CN fall then?
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Those are tweener ccTLDs, with enough history and country usage to remain ccTLDs under Google search and anyone buying one realizes its main usage will be for business within Germany, China, UK, etc.

And Google did outline how its search engine handles global 2-letter domains like TV, CO, CC, IO, et al, and it was as a gTLD. These are smaller countries (other than maybe Columbia) with virtually no historical country-specific user base and they have all embraced the worldwide market
 
theinvestor said:
when you want factual information you just need to go right to the source.
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Yep, and it was exactly what I said previously - Google treats global ccTLDs like CO, IO, CC, ME, TV, etc. as gTLDs for search purposes.
 
Esdiel said:
I’d trade in almost all my .CA domains for the .COMs tomorrow if I could, because I would make more money.
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You would also spend more money, as investing in COM is exponentially more expensive than CA. And there is a big reason for that, as the COM market is also exponentially much larger than CA.

It all comes down to value and whether you can turn your domain investment into profit, and do so in a timely manner that allows additional investment and a consistent cash flow.
 
Esdiel said:
This is a shit argument too btw. He picks the absolute worst ccTLD to make his point, and ignores how successful so many other ccTLDs are around the world.
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This PR guy (who may technically be Canadian but has lived and worked in the US for well over a decade) obviously has an agenda (or is a moron) as there are plenty of examples that clearly support the opposite finding, such as DE, which is much, much, much more popular in Germany than COM. Similar to IN in India or .UK or .EU or .TW or .FR, etc.

.US sucks in terms of popularity because .COM is effectively the US ccTLD and nothing will ever change that.
 
It's also a very self-serving article, as this (cough) Canadian (cough) has been running a NY-based web development firm https://ironmonk.com/ since 2010 and quite obviously has a .COM horse in this race. The article is almost-certainly a feeble attempt to drum up .COM "upgrades" for poor Canadian businesses.

And Iron Monk in NY also has a subsidiary/partner in Canada which uses the following CA domain, LOL: https://littledragon.ca/
 
DomainRecap said:
It's also a very self-serving article, as this (cough) Canadian (cough) has been running a NY-based web development firm https://ironmonk.com/ since 2010 and quite obviously has a .COM horse in this race. The article is almost-certainly a feeble attempt to drum up .COM "upgrades" for poor Canadian businesses.

And Iron Monk in NY also has a subsidiary/partner in Canada which uses the following CA domain, LOL: https://littledragon.ca/
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This entire "article" likely all for the backlink in the bio section.
 
DomainRecap said:
And Iron Monk in NY also has a subsidiary/partner in Canada which uses the following CA domain, LOL: https://littledragon.ca/
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Don't know when this Little Dragon will grow up to be a Big Dragon!!

BTW, BigDragon.ca is still available at the time of posting this and BigDragon.com is available for purchase, if they really are thinking of expanding!! LOL
 
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