TBR Drop - Aug 24, 2022 (1.Viewing)

up4.ca starts this weeks TBR off on a high note!!

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I think <reaaltor-reall-estate-2329711345856.ca> is better. I like how it sounds..just try it.

Look what pops up:

jujubes.ca

Looks like someone else is getting out of .CA, as there is a set of mid-range LLLs on the list that were all registered early on the TBR about a year ago at MyID.

That is not insignificant money as the market was red-hot then, and some went to auction.

Can't beat this one next week: aseguirestaoduasretasparalelascortadasporduastransversais.ca

DomainRecap said:

Looks like someone else is getting out of .CA, as there is a set of mid-range LLLs on the list that were all registered early on the TBR about a year ago at MyID.

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I wonder if they are dropping since they were not paid for or for some other reasons.

Eby said:

I wonder if they are dropping since they were not paid for or for some other reasons.

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These were picked up last year and anything refunded from CIRA only takes 30 days after non-payment. So no, they paid.

Plus, this happens all the time - some newb sees .CA LLLs or words selling for microscopic percentages of the .COM and thinks this is some get-rich-quick option, then a year or two later discovers that it's a long-haul business requiring patience, skill and a very close watch on expenditures.

Due to the limitations of selling to a tiny Canadian market, I don't think there is any other TLD investment that so dependent on not only buying quality, but also spending as little as possible. Creating wealth from .CA investing is like spinning plates or playing a pipe organ, there are so many different aspects to keep in balance, and that kills a lot of new investors, especially those entering now without the benefit of a long-term portfolio.

Personally I feel that the blatant openness of the "WHC Hot List" that shows domains and current bids has led to an increase in TBR prices that is unsustainable. I don't mean domains that sold for $5K are now selling for $20K, but domains that would sell for $20 before (or not even get picked up and go to hand-reg) are selling for $50-$100 or more, and I see it consistently.

One person lays down a bid a few hours before the TBR deadline, then other people start piling on and the WHC List suddenly becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. In the current .CA market, spending $75 average on 100 (or 1,000) domains that would have sold for $10-$20 just a few years ago is just not sustainable.

Otherwise we'd all be recent millionaires 10X over when we were buying these same .CA domains or better at $10-$15 just a couple years ago, right? Right?

So just due to basic economics, there will be a reckoning and a lot of "new .CA investors" are going to take a bath.

Well explained @DomainRecap and totally makes sense.

The cost of entry into the .Ca world is many multiples more than when you and I entered, making the carrying cost of all the renewals paid for years justifiable with far and few great names still available to chase after.

It makes a lot of sense to purchase portfolios at current trends. But who has that kind of dough to satisfy the seller.

Well there’s always the option to start slow and build up. But the current dominance and strategies of those Rars are hard to sustain. Only time will tell. Well, then DropCatch/Namebright did the same thing and still continuing to thrive. So who knows.

I think the main challenge really comes down to the tiny, tiny. tiny Canadian market that you're forced to sell to, which is a limiting factor akin to a brick wall. That's why non-premium .CA wholesale prices have historically been low, at least until recently.

As RLM so eloquently stated, "Let me know when I can get back to buying these for $20."

I can't tell you how many times I've given out a buy price on a domain and got a reply similar to "You do know that only Canadians can buy these, right?', which is essentially saying, "Your market is microscopic, so another buyer may never come around."

DomainRecap said:

These were picked up last year and anything refunded from CIRA only takes 30 days after non-payment. So no, they paid.

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No refund on TBR domains from CIRA IIRC, that's only on renewals or for "normal" registrations.

FM said:

No refund on TBR domains from CIRA IIRC, that's only on renewals or for "normal" registrations.

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Wow, I never knew that and as registration costs are the same I thought CIRA treated it like a normal registration - thanks for the info!

That also begs the question of what a registrar is supposed to do when it gets stiffed on an expensive TBR domain - do they then own it and can sell it off to anyone else? This would seem to be an easy avenue to fraudulent behavior and (cough) registrars "owning" a lot of expensive domains.

Registrars are not expected to do it, but as you said, could it be that.... (pure speculation).

Other than a few "bad penny" mid-range LLLs that were tossed back into the ocean from last year's TBR picks, I really don't see much meat on the bone for this week. I can't even find one good single-word and the WHC Hot Lost has exactly zero preorders.

But like that matters, with almost 200 picks on last week's junkpile list.

It reminds of a movie documentary I watched this weekend, concerning the sheer number of films in development versus those being made, and I'll paraphrase writer-rirector Billy Ray:

"We have maybe 150-200 TBR domain picks a week piling up in domain investment portfolios and there might be... a couple of .CA sales a week. So what's happening with the rest? They're going nowhere."

Still no bids on the WHC Hot List, not even for the "bad penny" LLLs... Interesting.



I'm sure there will be lots of preorders, but I'm still very interested to see what people can dredge out of this week's muck in order to magically create the standard 150-200 TBR picks.

DomainRecap said:

no bids on the WHC Hot List

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shhhh.ca ;-)

Anyone else noticing intermittent problems loading the TBR domains page (for the first time that day) on the CIRA site?

For me, it may load a blank page, take a long time to load the domain results, and sometimes it gives me a "page not responding" error. This is something very recent, like the last week or so, and it does go away after the page and results fully load.

A few interesting things...

1. JuJubes.ca - My top pick but for build out I think it is limited.

2. Flairs.ca - Flair.ca was owned by yours truly at one point

3. MapleForums.ca - I own MapleForum.ca and I passed on the plural.

4. Faxit.ca - insanely good but a dying technology makes a high acquisition risky.

DomainRecap said:

Anyone else noticing intermittent problems loading the TBR domains on the CIRA site?

For me, it sometimes loads a blank page, takes a long time to load the domain results, and sometimes gives me a "page not responding" error. This is something very recent, like the last week or so.

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Been happening to me for a couple of weeks, seems to stick and then chrome asks me if I want to wait or kill the page.

It's Monday night and we finally have a few bids: