Issue With GoDaddy Parking Ads On Expired Domains - UDRP On Sandels.com (7.Viewing)

UDRPsearch - WIPO D2023-0674 - Sandals Resorts International 2000 Inc. | -
This isn't the first time this had happened.

Thank you @silentg - I deleted our duplicate topic

@DomainTrader - do you have more insights on this?

MapleDots said:

Thank you @silentg - I deleted our duplicate topic

@DomainTrader - do you have more insights on this?

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Yes Frank I do have some insights on the subject and plan to explore this much more and in depth in the coming days. This is an incredible case that I believe has the ability to seriously change the landscape going forward. I may be soliciting the support of everyone here to draw attention to what I believe is a very serious problem. I don't know if everyone here is familiar with my past history of exposing scams in the domain space but I used to run a blog that exposed some of the biggest scammers in the domain space. Coincidentally a number if these scammers are in the domain name hall of fame LOL go figure. Anyways I am contemplating dusting off my old blog to document what I believe is a blatant and nefarious case of registrar interference. I really want to draw attention to this because that happened last week to this guy could very easily happen to YOU

You have all the tools here to write any article you want. We also have the audience and you can easily link from twitter.

I would love to hear your insights

MapleDots said:

You have all the tools here to write any article you want. We also have the audience and you can easily link from twitter.

I would love to hear your insights

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will blow your mind

The udrp has not yet been adjudicated but the domain name now resolves to the website of the complainant! how does that work? What happened to due proess

DomainTrader said:

The udrp has not yet been adjudicated but the domain name now resolves to the website of the complainant! how does that work? What happened to due proess

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Sounds like they negotiated a settlement and the udrp is in the process of being dropped.

rlm said:

Sounds like they negotiated a settlement and the udrp is in the process of being dropped.

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Begs the question, who are they to negotiate settlements regarding domain names that they do not own

Im pretty confident that GD is going to try and explain the incident away as either a bad accident! or an expired domain pullback which they claimed last year was a situation they had improved upon GoDaddy improves expired domain pullbacks BUT EITHER WAY and REGARDLESS they sold the domain name to a dude took his $2000. Monetized the name for the better part of a month and then made a variety of other missteps that I wont get into here as this case may move forward but having said that they did ALL OF THIS WITHOUT providing the registrant of the domain name with any explanation whatsoever as for the justifications for or the authority to take the actions they did. Godaddy can apparently sell you a name, monetize the name for their own benefit and to your determent after they sell it to you and then sometime much later on they can apparently just take control of your domain without due process. What a great service offering. Godaddy should be absolutely ashamed

rlm said:

Sounds like they negotiated a settlement and the udrp is in the process of being dropped.

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When I say "they negotiated" I meant the real owner, not godaddy.

rlm said:

When I say "they negotiated" I meant the real owner, not godaddy.

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I'm confused rim

Here's another one, this time due to Namecheap PPC ads.

PPC ads are high up on the list for DRP losses, I know @rlm uses them and he filters out the conflicting ads.

It's a lot of work but making a mistake could cost you dearly.

I'm kind of curious what CDRP's are like with this, maybe @Zak has some insight to let us know if PPC ads have a large impact on CDRP's.

Recent case Pru.com was lost by domain owner because of PPC ads. They had PPC ads but the TM related ads were not shown in China but was shown in the U.S. No way for the registrant to check or know.

PPC isn't a bad thing. I use ads on domains that are clear products/services and are not really trademarkable, such as paydayloans.ca, autoinsurance.ca, ink.ca, etc...

And no, I don't generally try to filter out specific words from ads, it would be too difficult to predict every potential infringing word. If anything, I will specify the keywords for ads, but that is for optimizing the ads to ensure they are relevant rather than having random ads.

The majority of my domains do not have ads due to concerns of potential infringement.

I generally don't use ads on domains that are brandable and trademarkable such as acronyms, names, words that are non-product or non-service related, etc... These types of domains simply don't have any relevant product or service ads anyways.

The big risk that PPC users might encounter is the fact that when these companies optimize ads, you might see one ad, and a visitor from a different region or country will see something completely different. So you'll never know what ads are being shown where, and you also won't know what trademarks exist in random countries. Many good domains have been lost in UDRPs from a complainant in another country for this reason.

And yes, you can be sure that infringing PPC ads are going to invite disputes and many of them are going to be successful.

rlm said:

And yes, you can be sure that infringing PPC ads are going to invite disputes and many of them are going to be successful.

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Sure, but I really hate it when big companies like GoDaddy or Namecheap nickel-and-dime their customers by immediately auto-loading PPC ads onto just-purchased domains and thereby risk you losing a domain that these registrars take all the ad revenue on.

If I'm loading PPC on my domains to make some extra cash, then it's all on me, but GD, Namecheap and others are cutting domainers' throats for their own profit.

And I just love these rogue UDRP panelists, when confronted by the well-known fact that many registrars load PPC ads without notification or consent, and then take all the money, reply with crap like "The registrant is obviously profiting from it, and I cannot believe this could done without his knowledge."

DomainRecap said:

Sure, but I really hate it when big companies like GoDaddy or Namecheap nickel-and-dime their customers by immediately auto-loading PPC ads onto just-purchased domains and thereby risk you losing a domain that these registrars take all the ad revenue on.

If I'm loading PPC on my domains to make some extra cash, then it's all on me, but GD, Namecheap and others are cutting domainers' throats for their own profit.

And I just love these rogue UDRP panelists, when confronted by the well-known fact that many registrars load PPC ads without notification or consent, and then take all the money, reply with crap like "The registrant is obviously profiting from it, and I cannot believe this could done without his knowledge."

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This is 100% a scam by the registrar. As such, I wouldn't knowingly use a registrar that does that. If I caught GoDaddy doing that to one of my domains, I would immediately blow a gasket on them and get them into admitting what they did in email support messages, so that you can document the entire thing. This way if some dispute came up at a later date with screenshots of the ads, then you have the complete documentation to back up your story. And once I secured that information, I'd promptly transfer out every domain and then explain to them why they just lost your business forever. That's your only retribution.

Most domain investors understand this and to be honest, if they're not paying attention to their domains, or if they use a registrar that they can't trust (like GoDaddy), then they'll eventually learn their lesson too. Sometimes the best lessons learned are the hard ones.

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Until we hear GoDaddy's side of the Sandels dot com story, it may not be prudent or accurate to claim something nefarious is going on. It's quite possible the registrant and GoDaddy and the complainant all worked out a resolution behind closed doors. Maybe @jamesiles could weigh in here?

Regardless, GoDaddy did display TM-infringing PPC ads on a domain their customer bought from them, and these actions did put a valuable domain in extreme danger of being lost in a UDRP.

DomainRecap said:

Sure, but I really hate it when big companies like GoDaddy or Namecheap nickel-and-dime their customers by immediately auto-loading PPC ads onto just-purchased domains and thereby risk you losing a domain that these registrars take all the ad revenue on.

If I'm loading PPC on my domains to make some extra cash, then it's all on me, but GD, Namecheap and others are cutting domainers' throats for their own profit.

And I just love these rogue UDRP panelists, when confronted by the well-known fact that many registrars load PPC ads without notification or consent, and then take all the money, reply with crap like "The registrant is obviously profiting from it, and I cannot believe this could done without his knowledge."

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This is the real problem