CBC now listed as Government Funded Media (1.Viewing)

I had the same thought as @GeorgeK

To do it right they have to label all the accounts

Trudeau even admits it

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Trudeau even admits it

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the arrogance.

^ Are you guys really that uninformed and/or gullible?

He's making a joke in that clip, from some gala. Something like what the US presidents do, at their "White House Correspondents Dinner", such as:

Obama at
Bush at

It's a joke, and if comments were open on that YouTube video, people could point that out. But whoever posted that wants to avoid people learning it's a joke, so they prevented comments on that video.

This is misinformation in action.


Seriously, I notice that a lot of people are frankly uninformed and/or practically brainwashed by the right-wing garbage that flies around online.

Yeah, CBC is partly funded by the government, but it's still independent.

Do you prefer the National Post, which is funded by right-wing Americans?


Many of you would benefit from reading through a page like this:
old.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/12ptzea/i_was_cbcs_ottawa_bureau_chief_for_several_years/




Right-wingers purposely spread BS online, to trick people who don't know better. For example:
Explainer: The rise of Canada’s right-wing meme pages

And now they have an army of right-wing sheep to act as their minions.




I notice in other posts that a lot of you parrot the right-wing talking points. It's just sad that people fall for this garbage. You've basically gotten brainwashed.

HelloCanada said:

^ Are you guys really that uninformed and/or gullible?

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People often joke about the truth, Trudeau is so full of crap he does not know what he is saying half the time.


That said....

For some reason this topic crashes my Android device. Litteraly every time I view this topic I have to restart my phone.

HaHa, even Android hates Trudeau!

MapleDots said:

People often joke about the truth, Trudeau is so full of crap he does not know what he is saying half the time.

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Give an example of "full of crap".

Like I said, a lot of it is just BS, parroting right-wing talking points that are based upon twisting things.

Provide an example, and I can show you how it's been twisted.


I hope y'all don't support Poilievre, lol. The guy is just evil.

HelloCanada said:

I hope y'all don't support Poilievre, lol. The guy is just evil.

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PPC is my choice but he wont get in.

So seriously if all Poilievre does is remove the bs carbon tax I will vote for him.

Wait until you get your first full utility bills after April 2023, an insane amount of my natural gas bill was carbon tax and hst and that was before the April increase.

The more gas you use the higher the percentage tax.






PS. This bill is over a year old, add the carbon fee and the hst together.

I will post the new one when I get it in the summer.


Yup, makes me want to vote for Trudeau

The issue itself is not so black and white with different governments in power over the years. And I’m pretty sure everyone here knew Trudeau was trying to make a joke. Doesn’t make it funny or untrue tho and indeed stinks a bit like arrogance. I like CBC but they obviously lean in favour of the left.

MapleDots said:

PPC is my choice but he wont get in.

So seriously if all Poilievre does is remove the bs carbon tax I will vote for him.

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See, this is an example of how things got twisted.

A carbon tax + rebate (the rebate part is important to note) is simply good policy, and sensible. It was actually a right-wing idea ~50 years ago.

6 arguments for carbon taxes | MIT Sloan


Most people are getting more money back with the carbon rebates, compared to the extra amount they're paying for the carbon tax:
Most Canadians got more from carbon-price rebates than they spent in 2021: report

"Based on the numbers in the report, the average amount that people paid in the four provinces where the carbon price applied that year was $555. The average rebate was $804."



The point of the carbon tax is to shift consumption to reduce carbon emissions.

To use a simple example, I'll use cigarettes... they causes a lot of health problems, and costs for society. And theoretically, let's say regular cigarettes are $10, but there's an alternative "healthy cigarette" option that costs $12.

If you change the price of a nicotine pack to $13, but also give everyone $2 each, then they can choose to still by the nicotine pack if they want. If they buy the "healthy cigarette" for $12, it's basically the same price for them... like $12 with a $2 discount, so just like the $10 they were spending earlier.



Also, I think Bernier is kind of crazy lol. I don't think he's evil like Poilievre, but he seems misinformed and/or just has bad values. Bernier stands for what he believes in though (even if it's bad)... but PP doesn't believe in anything, and will just say whatever he thinks will help him win.

But why do you like the PPC?


I can see why Bernier started the PPC though, because the Conservative Party are scoundrels, and basically stole the leadership from him:

Bernier camp casts doubt on Conservative leadership vote

...the Conservative Party destroyed the leadership vote ballots, to prevent a recount:
"The Bernier camp wants to know why party director Dustin van Vugt ordered that all the ballots be destroyed immediately after the vote and why scrutineers were also not informed that there was a 7,466 vote discrepancy. Only 7,049 votes separated the two candidates on the final ballot."

In some ways, I can understand why though, because Bernier would be terrible for the country, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near leadership. But the Conservatives just have a history of being terrible and doing dirty tricks, like robocalls telling people to go to the wrong ballot place ( Who is Pierre Poutine? ).

I like Elon. He's actually funny lol

Esdiel said:

The issue itself is not so black and white with different governments in power over the years. And I’m pretty sure everyone here knew Trudeau was trying to make a joke. Doesn’t make it funny or untrue tho and indeed stinks a bit like arrogance. I like CBC but they obviously lean in favour of the left.

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They're basically just centrist, while CTV is somewhat right-wing, and Global is even more right-wing. And The Globe and Mail is somewhat right-wing, and The National Post is very right-wing.

And did you ever see CBC News Network's 5pm to 7pm show "Power and Politics" with Vassy Kapelos? She's right-wing (came from Global TV earlier, so no big surprise) and practically was a mouthpiece for the Cons half the time. A lot of times, she was more interested in "gotcha" questions than in getting at the truth, and good policy... that's also how the Cons operate nowadays too. They don't care about what makes sense for good policies, they just care about riling-up their base.

Fortunately (so I don't have to see her on other CBC coverage anymore), Kapelos quit and moved to CTV recently.

CBC also was the initial platform for Kevin O'Leary, through both Dragon's Den + the "Lang and O'Leary Exchange" daily business news show. And then O'Leary later ran for the Conservative leadership.

So like I said, they are basically centrist, and have even given right-wingers platforms.




Anyway, PP and the Cons talk about defunding the CBC, but that will just leave us with very biased corporate media.

A lot of you will be interested to see examples like this, of what corporate media does:


The Globe and Mail editorial board wanted to endorse the Ontario Liberals in 2014, but the billionaire owner of the Globe and Mail didn't like that, so he got his stooge to overrule them:
SOURCE: Globe Editorial Board endorsed Wynne Liberals, was overruled

And likewise, they've done that federally to support the federal Conservatives too:
Did the owners of Canada’s national newspapers order them to endorse Harper? | Ricochet



The bottom line is that yes, the CBC is publicly funded partly through government funds, but it is independent.

And just look at the US to see what happens when corporate media rules the airwaves (PBS doesn't have enough funding to compete)... Fox News is a cancer upon society.



I think if more people were better informed about this stuff, they could see how PP is a snake oil salesman who spreads lies. This whole CBC/Twitter thing is in motion because PP complained to Musk.

The next big headline will probably be that Beijing funds the other 31% of CBC.

@HelloCanada

I will tax you but I will give it back to you if you are a good boy and do my bidding.

You also wont be able to afford groceries but I will give you a grocery credit if you behave and do exactly as I say.


In all seriousness, debits and credits, that can't go well. Just leave the money in my pocket and take a fair tax rate, it's really not that hard.

MapleDots said:

@HelloCanada

I will tax you but I will give it back to you if you are a good boy and do my bidding.

You also wont be able to afford groceries but I will give you a grocery credit if you behave and do exactly as I say.


In all seriousness, debits and credits, that can't go well. Just leave the money in my pocket and take a fair tax rate, it's really not that hard.

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Please re-read what I wrote above.

People get rebate cheques, no matter what (in provinces that didn't make other arrangements). It's up to them if they want to adjust their purchasing decisions. There's no "if you are a good boy" issue.

Climate change is a big problem (and costly), and carbon emissions are the major cause of that.

Also, you can read this to understand the issue better:
Externality - Wikipedia

I think if someone reads that, it's clear why a tax+rebate system for carbon emissions simply makes sense.


Also, recent inflation is a global problem, partly due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That increased oil prices, which increases the price of a lot of things. And Ukraine was also a major food producer, so now there's more demand for other food supplies, which increased prices.

HelloCanada said:

I think if someone reads that, it's clear why a tax+rebate system for carbon emissions simply makes sense.

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We will never agree on that so I will end that part of the debate, we are carbon creatures and taxing carbon is idiotic.

Instead give us a way to reduce carbon by giving us tax breaks to install less carbon heavy appliances. In fact just subsidize those appliances to begin with to encourage everyone to use them. Then ban PRIVATE jets and have our pretty boy Trudeau fly first class commercial instead. The biggest polluter is private jets, that should carry a mega carbon tax.

So I will never be convinced Trudeau is on the right track, tax and grab is never the answer. Using CBC to push that agenda is just wrong and I am heavily in favour of labeling CBC as government funded, because they are. Again, lets push those billions into subsidizing appliances, furnaces and gas stoves to forward the carbonless agenda. We don't need a news channel to preach government hypocrisy, we need action and the Liberal government has shown a completely inept ability to manage Canada. Quite honestly it's time to move over, The PC party will win and they certainly cannot screw up more than our unqualified teacher boy already has.